In a fecking nutshell....

[Guest]

I know you may feel otherwise, but i just put that down to Pennant not being all that good mate.

He certainly is not that good, i haven't disguised that fact at all, just pointing out that he has qualities that needs to be exploited, such as great crossing and short passing skills.

[Craig_H]

Do you count Arsenal in that, Kaip?

[Craig_H]

He certainly is not that good, i haven't disguised that fact at all, just pointing out that he has qualities that needs to be exploited, such as great crossing and short passing skills.

He doesnt seem to have the mentality though, no belief, no confidence, and little evidence of much pace, either.

No crossing ability or passing skills can help, if the lad's head isnt right.

[Red Chilli]

Do you count Arsenal in that, Kaip?

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Yes, even Arsenal waste money.

[Craig_H]

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Yes, even Arsenal waste money.

I wouldnt mind the wasting of money if, somewhere along the line, we'd brought in the players who'd won us two doubles (as well as got us challenging for the title every season) in the last 10 years...

[Guest]

Do you count Arsenal in that, Kaip?

Arsenal has a different policy. They just go out and buy the best young talent there is around and try to develop them afterwards. They are investing in potential and rely on their scouting network to 'spot' a talent, much like Rafa's scouts.

The difference is (as Rafa pointed out in one of his recent pre match post conferences), they can afford to put more money. Walcott should have been ours if we decided to go for that extra 3 or 4 million pounds. That could well be true for many of Arsenal's bright youngsters, as we surely were after most of them.

[Kaip]

Do you count Arsenal in that, Kaip?

Yep.............does franny jeffers ring a bell

[Neil Young]

You're using that as a method to justify not trying it.

I'm using 17 years without a title and a 16 point gap as a suggestion of why we should try it.

Hmm maybe.

Actually what I'm saying is that it's a ****ing boring discussion, full of imponderables and half-arsed opinions from people who are often no doubt good and well-meaning but who sadly know little or nothing about professional football or running a club or managing a squad...

I include myself obviously and there may be the odd exception to the rule who contributes to this forum.

I'll try to leave you all to get on with it. No offence meant.

[Guest]

He doesnt seem to have the mentality though, no belief, no confidence, and little evidence of much pace, either.

No crossing ability or passing skills can help, if the lad's head isnt right.

That's my point mate.

[Craig_H]

Arsenal has a different policy. They just go out and buy the best young talent there is around and try to develop them afterwards. They are investing in potential and rely on their scouting network to 'spot' a talent, much like Rafa's scouts.

The difference is (as Rafa pointed out in one of his recent pre match post conferences), they can afford to put more money. Walcott should have been ours if we decided to go for that extra 3 or 4 million pounds. That could well be true for many of Arsenal's bright youngsters, as we surely were after most of them.

Why can Arsenal afford to put more money in than us?

[Red Chilli]

I wouldnt mind the wasting of money if, somewhere along the line, we'd brought in the players who'd won us two doubles (as well as got us challenging for the title every season) in the last 10 years...

What's you're point? They weren't a waste of money because the rest of the team was successsful?

That's nonsense, if you're disputing that these 3 were a waste of money then you've lost it.

[Craig_H]

Yep.............does franny jeffers ring a bell

Not disputing the wasting money thing, of course every club does. As i said before though, i could swallow it easier if they'd also won 2 doubles and challenged for the title every year along the way.

However, my question was more to do with you saying some clubs can afford to waste it more than others.

Can Arsenal 'afford' to waste money any more than we can?

[Guest]

Hmm maybe.

Actually what I'm saying is that it's a ****ing boring discussion, full of imponderables and half-arsed opinions from people who are often no doubt good and well-meaning but who sadly know little or nothing about professional football or running a club or managing a squad...

I include myself obviously and there may be the odd exception to the rule who contributes to this forum.

I'll try to leave you all to get on with it. No offence meant.

Obviously you didn't bracket me with all these ****s.

[Craig_H]

What's you're point? They weren't a waste of money because the rest of the team was successsful?

That's nonsense, if you're disputing that these 3 were a waste of money then you've lost it.

No, i'm saying that despite wasting money, they were still able to buy brilliant players who brought them lots of success.

We only manage the first half of that.

[Neil Young]

Obviously you didn't bracket me with all these ****s.

Heaven forfend, mon vieux.