Peter Crouch

[carheex]

I'm not averse to selling him per se, but only as long as we can get someone in better to replace him.

I see no point in selling him whatsoever. Who can we get that is better, who will be happy to sit on the bench?

[Imy]

Well you're looking at his limited games this season. Assists don't just mean the final ball, there are runs off the ball etc.
It's very naive/facetious to say he offers nothing.
What does Kuyt offer then?

Kuyt offers more pace and strength then Crouch, he links the play better then Crouch, he can head the ball, shows more game intelligence, looks like he can score and thus poses more of a danger then Crouch.

Can he score more then Crouch? well if he didn't spend so much tie outside of the box i think he can.

(i say these things as a Kuyt critic too)

[carheex]

Rafa talks alot abot controlling the game and his Valencia side were a great team at keeping the ball and making the opposition chase.With Kuyt in the team he links well,he can run onto balls in behind even though he is'nt a sprinter and he holds the ball up well.I presume that is what Rafa wants from him.

Today again we saw that Crouch is normally static when he gets the ball and cant run the channels or get past a defender.He kept losing the ball today and putting pressure on the defence.He was not contributing anything for me.

What exactly does he offer consistently other than goals?

Isn't he a striker??
Maybe we should we be looking to sell Carragher.....he offers nothing but consistent defending...

[AFII]

I see no point in selling him whatsoever. Who can we get that is better, who will be happy to sit on the bench?

We don't need to replace him if we sell him IMO. Huntelaar and Elmander was only examples of who we can replace him with.

Four strikers is enough IMO, Torres, Kuyt, Voronin and Babel.

It may seem a bit harch but IMO we don't need him anymore. We have other players that can do his work and offers us more than him.

He is our fifth best striker.

[Shaggy]

Crouch is a good player but today he was woeful.

In his very limited playing time this season, he's been really poor. I don't see how he's going to get any rhythm or form going when he plays so little. He'll be out of the side on Tuesday and probably next week again. He's a good player but Rafa, in my view, hasn't managed him very well of late.

I still think a partnership WITH Torres would be very dangerous and our best pairing, but they've not played together for a second.

The writing's on the wall for him, IMO, and selling him while we'll get a top premium for him might be a good idea.

I don't care what ANYONE says, if he goes in January he will have been a success at LFC. He's proved everyone wrong, time and time again, and he'll do well elsewhere. Good player, but it's no good for either party if he's only gonna be used once a month.

[Imy]

I see no point in selling him whatsoever. Who can we get that is better, who will be happy to sit on the bench?

Who is to say the replacement striker would spend time on the bench? lets say they got a foil for Torres who is better the Kuyt/crow then surely they would play as much as the other strikers.

Also we can't say Crouch is happy on the bench either, hence the stalling of contract negotiations and the early season grumblings.

[JPK]

Isn't he a striker??
Maybe we should we be looking to sell Carragher.....he offers nothing but consistent defending...

Torres was bought as our NO.1 striker.Cisse scored goals and did little else and he was sold.You have to do what is best for the team

[Shaggy]

Hahaha. Elmander my arse.

[AFII]

I don't care what ANYONE says, if he goes in January he will have been a success at LFC. He's proved everyone wrong, time and time again, and he'll do well elsewhere. Good player, but it's no good for either party if he's only gonna be used once a month.

Crouch need to play week in week out. Some players can make it playing once every two weeks or so, Crouch can't.

[carheex]

like what? Nuisance factor? bloomin Glen Johnson had him in his pocket after the initial couple of challenges.

Heading? No, Pace, No, Strength, No, Goals, maybe last season nothing to note this season, assists, no

so what does he offer?

Pace and strength are over rated, even useless, attributes for a forward without the 2 key factors:- goals and assists. Both of which Crouchy Tiger can provide as well as anyone else fighting for the 2nd striker spot. See how well Kuyt does when he's left to rust and given just cameo appearances. The same would apply to any striker.

[Imy]

Pace and strength are over rated, even useless, attributes for a forward without the 2 key factors:- goals and assists. Both of which Crouchy Tiger can provide as well as anyone else fighting for the 2nd striker spot. See how well Kuyt does when he's left to rust and given just cameo appearances. The same would apply to any striker.

OK how about style of play, with Crouch in the team you get the lumped long ball (akin to the days of long ball to Heskey who would try to feed Owen) with Kuyt/Crow you get a mixture of long, short, wide, central type plays/balls.

Crouch can provide goals and assist but presently his attitude is one of sulking and not of let me do the business on the pitch.

[Revo]

Crouch is a good player but today he was woeful.

is the correct answer mate and he is not above critisim

[Guest]

OK how about style of play, with Crouch in the team you get the lumped long ball (akin to the days of long ball to Heskey who would try to feed Owen) with Kuyt/Crow you get a mixture of long, short, wide, central type plays/balls.

Crouch can provide goals and assist but presently his attitude is one of sulking and not of let me do the business on the pitch.

I think he's lacking confidence. I also think that Rafa sees him as an 'alternative'. By that I mean, playing him as a battering ram in a 'long ball' game, which he obviously isn't the type to flourish under.

As long as we win the league I don't care if certain players aren't happy. The ball is in Crouch's court to prove the doubters wrong.

[Revo]

Pace and strength are over rated, even useless, attributes for a forward without the 2 key factors:- goals and assists. Both of which Crouchy Tiger can provide as well as anyone else fighting for the 2nd striker spot. See how well Kuyt does when he's left to rust and given just cameo appearances. The same would apply to any striker.

come on mate you cant be serious with that

[Imy]

I think he's lacking confidence. I also think that Rafa sees him as an 'alternative'. By that I mean, playing him as a battering ram in a 'long ball' game, which he obviously isn't the type to flourish under.

As long as we win the league I don't care if certain players aren't happy. The ball is in Crouch's court to prove the doubters wrong.

Agree as long as we win he league!

Then we can part exchange hmi for a real battering ram, one that can flourish with that role.