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    Originally posted by Assassin View Post
    Loaning him out is utter bollocks. He needs to be in this squad and fighting for a place in the team otherwise he will not learn how to play the Klopp way. He will have plenty of opportunites to play, as we are currently in 4 competitions and have more than enough longterm injuries.

    Also, If he gets sent out on loan we are then more reliant on some of the less experienced and mature plays to fill the gaps
    Agree its pointless at this stage. Its sink or swim for him now. Sticking him in a side with mediocre Premiership players will bring him down to their level. Look at how Wisdom has fizzled out.

    Keep him in and use him like we did on Saturday for the rest of the season. Impact Sub and in the cups. Occasionally starting in the league if his form demands it.
    *Except Michael, who died.

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      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      Agree its pointless at this stage. Its sink or swim for him now. Sticking him in a side with mediocre Premiership players will bring him down to their level. Look at how Wisdom has fizzled out. Keep him in and use him like we did on Saturday for the rest of the season. Impact Sub and in the cups. Occasionally starting in the league if his form demands it.
      I think that's why Klopp said he's going to have a rethink about loaning out players

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        Originally posted by Alex View Post
        Agree its pointless at this stage. Its sink or swim for him now. Sticking him in a side with mediocre Premiership players will bring him down to their level. Look at how Wisdom has fizzled out.

        Keep him in and use him like we did on Saturday for the rest of the season. Impact Sub and in the cups. Occasionally starting in the league if his form demands it.
        I agree. Plus he appears to be one of Klopps favourites from what I have seen, bitch slaps, head butts, handing him his glasses, big man cuddles, etc.....

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          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
          Hence your penis being located on your front side
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post

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              If Klopp instills some game intelligence then we have a player on our hands.

              Main issue for me has been Ibe's decision making - dribbling into a group of defenders rather than playing a pass to a man in space etc. If he gets that right then he has all of the tools to turn into a very useful player.

              Some Jurgen love will soon sort that

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                Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                Loaning him out is utter bollocks. He needs to be in this squad and fighting for a place in the team otherwise he will not learn how to play the Klopp way. He will have plenty of opportunites to play, as we are currently in 4 competitions and have more than enough longterm injuries.

                Also, If he gets sent out on loan we are then more reliant on some of the less experienced and mature plays to fill the gaps
                To be fair it's not really utter bollocks to suggest a young talented player would be more likely to improve by playing regular football, but I do get what you're saying about him learning the way Klopp wants to play.

                I like Ibe and hope that he can push on ala Sterling. I suppose his playing time depends on how well we do in the cups, impact sub appearances & what we do in the January window.

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                  With the lack of pace in the squad at the moment it would be daft to put out on loan a player that actually has this attribute. He'll get games and chances under Klopp this season.

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                    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                    To be fair it's not really utter bollocks to suggest a young talented player would be more likely to improve by playing regular football, but I do get what you're saying about him learning the way Klopp wants to play.

                    I like Ibe and hope that he can push on ala Sterling. I suppose his playing time depends on how well we do in the cups, impact sub appearances & what we do in the January window.
                    As others have said, he is more or less ready now. A loan for Ibe would be completely pointless and non productive. He is an integral part of our squad

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                      Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                      To be fair it's not really utter bollocks to suggest a young talented player would be more likely to improve by playing regular football, but I do get what you're saying about him learning the way Klopp wants to play.

                      I like Ibe and hope that he can push on ala Sterling. I suppose his playing time depends on how well we do in the cups, impact sub appearances & what we do in the January window.
                      Don't be daft. We currently don't have enough wide players so there's no reason to loan him out. He'll get his chance and he is good enough.
                      Are we winning?

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                        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                        Lad has all the tools just lacking confidence and experience, would like to see him loaned out to get regular football.

                        Well either that or he improves quickly in the short term and becomes a regular first teamer like Sterling
                        Oh Dan. Where were you thinking ? The guy needs a manager who'll put an arm around his shoulder obviously & it seems that Jurgen is the guy to do that. He's looked more assured the last few appearances & he's heading in the right direction IMO. If he was to go out on loan he'll only get game time if he's performing & feeling that the manager rates him. There's no guarantee that would happen so he's better off with us being nurtured by the master. I hope that explains why it is bollocks to loan him out & we'll hear no more of your silly statements ok.
                        Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                          Surprised no ones bumped Jordan. Thought he was great last night - yeah there's still lots to improve, but considering what he was like only a few weeks back, it's chalk and cheese.

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                            Originally posted by Cormack74 View Post
                            Surprised no ones bumped Jordan. Thought he was great last night - yeah there's still lots to improve, but considering what he was like only a few weeks back, it's chalk and cheese.


                            I know he's very young but I've been far from convinced about him, however last night was his best performance for us I reckon and he looked really promising.

                            A big goal too so that should do wonders for his confidence.

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                              Originally posted by Lee View Post


                              I know he's very young but I've been far from convinced about him, however last night was his best performance for us I reckon and he looked really promising.

                              A big goal too so that should do wonders for his confidence.
                              Its becomming more and more apparent that rodgers just instilled mediocrity into the players

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                                I think Everton last year was his best performance and his form last year pre-injury and his showings in pre-season were better than what we have seen so far this year, even under Klopp. Indications are that he is getting back to that level though which would be great to see.
                                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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