Roberto Firmino

[EwarWoo]

I cannot believe he is in the PFA team of the season..sigh..

He's not

[Myo]

Lol fixed

[SB]

I get it, but it's a bit of a cliché isn't it? Industry, organisation, and an end product are all vital to a successful business our team. Let's say that Bobby, Virgil and Mo are all the first name on the team sheet

No cliche I’m afraid. Ive little to no doubt that BobbyMoVirgil is most likely what Klopp puts on the team sheet.

[Buzzo]

Another decent article on us from the Guardian.

No place in PFA team for Firmino, Liverpool’s high-class goal-angry scuffle-man

Roberto Firmino defies easy categorisation and while he may not have done enough to warrant a place in the PFA’s team of the season he is a vital part of Jürgen Klopp’s attacking armoury

Barney Ronay

“We like lists because we don’t want to die,” the highbrow novelist Umberto Eco said a few years ago, going on to talk at length about the artistic urge to preserve, the Homeric tradition of listing generals and soldiers as a means of glorifying human existence and the fact he was being paid to promote a big exhibition all about lists at the time.

This may be true. But it does overlook the other type of list, lists that make you actively question the value of life itself. Yes, it’s that time of year again, the time of football lists, when the games become sunlit, demob-happy affairs and when it becomes necessary, with a sense of deathly foreboding, to divvy up the players and teams of the last nine months.

This has always been the way. Professional football is basically made up of lists, driven from its inception by an urge to rank and categorise, and fuelled now to a state of constant rage-overload by new metrics, new media, new angry people. So much so that if you were to come to football fresh and try to invent a name for it you would probably come up with something more appropriate to the general spectacle, such as “shout-kick upset” or “goal taunt event” or “sustained ball argument opportunity”.

The PFA team of the season, which was published this week, is one of the better lists: a peer review voted on by the pros, and an object of informed fascination. There is a basic pointlessness in even questioning it – not that this has stopped usual carpings, revisions and fat-brained thought-blurts from the fringes of coherent discourse, also known as Why Not Share Your Thoughts In The Comments Below.

There is, though, one minor quibble that stood out. An absence that is hardly glaring, but which does speak to the basic oddity of this kind of list. It is hard to make a really convincing case for Roberto Firmino in the team of the year. Sergio Agüero, who is in it, has scored a goal every 94 minutes for the champion team, and remains a startlingly high-grade footballer.

Similarly it has become a bit of a cliche to champion Firmino as an underrated player. He is right now the Seinfeld of elite central attackers, still managing to come across as a cultish phenomenon even while he’s out there topping the ratings, second only to Cristiano Ronaldo on Champions League goals and regularly linked with Barcelona and Bayern Munich.

But there are still good reasons why Firmino seems to come from left-field, to defy easy categorisation. Where would you put him in the PFA team anyway? He doesn’t have the goals of a top centre-forward, or the assists of a top creator, but is instead something else entirely and no less valuable. Some have called him a false nine in his current role, and later a 9.5. Recently it has become the fashion to strike a dramatic pose and say, wait, what if he’s actually just a nine.

But really Firmino is just himself, a bespoke player tailored precisely to the intersection of what the team requires and his own unusual skill set. Probably we need new words to describe what he does. Central goal-block obstacle. Smiling foul-runner. High-class goal-angry scuffle-man.

With this in mind Firmino is also king of the alternative metric. Everyone loves a good Firmino stat. To date he has run a greater combined distance than any other attacker in the Champions League this season. In the Premier League Firmino has made 54 successful tackles, not just more than other strikers, but more to a comical degree. Harry Kane has made 15, Agüero nine. Firmino, meanwhile, has made more tackles than Nicolás Otamendi.

The main thing he does is define and embody the best of Jürgen Klopp’s system to a startling degree. Firmino is the system, the on-switch for that supremely well-drilled press. It isn’t just the running. Firmino has his own range of skills that just seem to fit the transition to central striker. He is brilliant at taking the ball under pressure and turning or linking.

He drove Otamendi to distraction in the Champions League with his extraordinary ability to pull high balls out of the air with his feet, back to goal, reeling it in with a kind of roundhouse grab, even a little capoeira-ish showboating.

And so back to lists. It seems pretty obvious Firmino wouldn’t be quite so much himself at another team, away from a role that is so clearly a fusion of the Firmino-Klopp nexus. Instead I would put him at the top of another list, a list of players who are the perfect fit exactly where they are, the embodiment of a team and a system, unimprovably themselves.

Some players just seem to click with a certain city, the electricity around a certain club. Even the relationship with Klopp has something touching about it, the way the manager comes bustling on to the pitch at the end hugging and fussing and looming over his forward-leader like an inspirational inner city history teacher beaming down at his favourite urchin scholar.

Klopp’s ideal centre-forward wasn’t signed by Klopp and didn’t come to Liverpool as a centre-forward. But here he is all the same: an element of hard-won synchronicity that has been one of the stories of the season whatever the lists might say.

[Fosterbloke]

Another decent article on us from the Guardian.

That was a very enjoyable read!

More tackles that Otamendi

[Exiled_red]

When did the voting take place? I am just wondering if it was when the Holgate stuff was hanging over him. This may have been a factor as well. That said it's difficult to argue with the top 3 goalscorers being in there.

[labourRed]

That was a very enjoyable read!

More tackles that Otamendi

It's a point I made during the week. City dominate the ball so the defenders against most teams don't have much to do. When they come up against teams who attack them they're ****e. Or at least Otamendi is.

[danperkins]

What a ****ing player

[McDermotX]

He's ****ing outstanding

[Phoenix07]

Absolute filth tonight. Looks so much more agile compared to the last few seasons. An extra yard of pace, and able to swivel to create space so quickly.

[baitman]

after one of salah's goal you can see bobby doing a roundhouse kick in the background, almost takes mo's head off





love this crazy lad.

[Tee]

Despite Mo’s genius Bobby is my number one, a truly outstanding, uniquely talented player

[PTP]

Absolute filth tonight. Looks so much more agile compared to the last few seasons. An extra yard of pace, and able to swivel to create space so quickly.

He’s a complete enigma to me

Start of his career I had no idea why signed an not sure what he offered, he didn’t look quick enough to be a threat and not clinical enough to be a striker and he still ha games where he misses a chance or doesn’t threaten

But in this system I wouldn’t swap him for anyone

And workrate alone is unreal

Plus he’s not all there in the head is he haha ultimate cult hero but with the performances to match

And an unreal season, I never thought he’d have 20+ goals in him

[Rich]

He could hit 30 goals. and still be over shadowed

[-V-]

Turning into an absolute monster