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Just unlucky!...with key players off form & ****housery from opponents!Originally posted by badpiggy View PostIs there nothing to said about the fact that he's lost 4 out of the five European Finals he's been in? Anyone willing to be devil's advocate here? Something to be said about Klopp's style of play not being suited to finals...? Anyone?Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!
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We are definitely better set up to attack rather than defend...Originally posted by badpiggy View PostIs there nothing to said about the fact that he's lost 4 out of the five European Finals he's been in? Anyone willing to be devil's advocate here? Something to be said about Klopp's style of play not being suited to finals...? Anyone?
It does us well in the league and earlier stages of cup competition but given how long the season has been and fatigue has virtually killed our running and goal scoring it may have been better to set up a more solid midfield. But I don't think we have the players for that.removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
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But doesn't an 80% loss rate indicate more than just bad luck? That the unbelievably exciting and entertaining system and style that brought us to compete at the final stage of 4 competitions is also unsuited to finals where nuance and guile and pragmatism are needed?Originally posted by Angryred View PostJust unlucky!...with key players off form & ****housery from opponents!
I'm trying to exorcise the demons of Saturday by talking it through. I'm still gutted and looking for answers and it's only the fact that it was Ancellotti who I really like and respect (he's a kind of anti-Mourinho and like a Bob Paisley) that's keeping me from being actually miserable about it.Felching ≠ Gerbilling
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Originally posted by badpiggy View PostIs there nothing to said about the fact that he's lost 4 out of the five European Finals he's been in? Anyone willing to be devil's advocate here? Something to be said about Klopp's style of play not being suited to finals...? Anyone?Of the three with Liverpppol, we had the Moreno debacle, then the Karius cluster****; this is the 1st one i think where the collective were to blame rather than the style or team selected.Originally posted by Angryred View PostJust unlucky!...with key players off form & ****housery from opponents!
Thiago was not fit & i thought the players struggled out of possession, really disappointing but not on Klopp as i think the majority of the fans would have selected the same 11 & changes we made.
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How many shots on target did we have in the three finals this year?Originally posted by badpiggy View PostIs there nothing to said about the fact that he's lost 4 out of the five European Finals he's been in? Anyone willing to be devil's advocate here? Something to be said about Klopp's style of play not being suited to finals...? Anyone?
Carabao Cup = 13
FA Cup = 2 (from 17 shots)
CL = 9
FA Cup aside, hard to believe we did not score...
Klopp can't get on the end of chances. He looked absolutely knackered yesterday. Poor lad needs a rest.Substance > Style
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That's absolutely fair and true but I'm just thinking about the 4 CL and 1 UEFA Final where he's won one.Originally posted by ronanm View PostHow many shots on target did we have in the three finals this year?
Carabao Cup = 13
FA Cup = 2 (from 17 shots)
CL = 9
FA Cup aside, hard to believe we did not score...
Klopp can't get on the end of chances. He looked absolutely knackered yesterday. Poor lad needs a rest.Felching ≠ Gerbilling
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Originally posted by ronanm View PostHow many shots on target did we have in the three finals this year?
Carabao Cup = 13
FA Cup = 2 (from 17 shots)
CL = 9
FA Cup aside, hard to believe we did not score...
Klopp can't get on the end of chances. He looked absolutely knackered yesterday. Poor lad needs a rest.
We played well in all of the finals this year IMO.Modifying post.
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I don't normally take much notice of them but what we're the xG for those finals (and perhaps the previous ones before this season). For this year's finals I would say we should probably have scored at least 1 in all of them, just came up against GKs having better than normal days at work....Originally posted by ronanm View PostHow many shots on target did we have in the three finals this year?
Carabao Cup = 13
FA Cup = 2 (from 17 shots)
CL = 9
FA Cup aside, hard to believe we did not score...
Klopp can't get on the end of chances. He looked absolutely knackered yesterday. Poor lad needs a rest.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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If you want to be critical, you could say our style of play leaves everyone knackered by the end of the season... maybe.
But he has also got us to 4 European finals and 2 domestic cup finals, having spent less than other teams with this style of play.
I think its fine margins, and **** didnt go our way. Afcon maybe disrupted Mo, but even then our actual form since was still amazing.In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.
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