Jürgen Klopp

[Barnie7]

Why's that?

because in Germany nobody likes RBL, it is a plastic club with plastic fans and goes against everything Klopp has stood for at Mainz, BVB & the Reds....this is a money decision, pure and simple!! very disappointing

[baitman]

because in Germany nobody likes RBL, it is a plastic club with plastic fans and goes against everything Klopp has stood for at Mainz, BVB & the Reds....this is a money decision, pure and simple!! very disappointing

And the unlimited red bull, helps restore Jurgens energy levels

[Yozza]

Dortmund fans riled by Klopp's Red Bull move

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c89l5xx8n1xo

Jurgen Klopp's reputation among supporters in Germany is taking a hit after his appointment as head of global soccer at Red Bull.

The Austrian energy drinks producer has landed a public relations coup by hiring one of the most respected figures in German and European football.

Beginning in January, Klopp will oversee all footballing developments within the company.

In 2009, though, Red Bull caused controversy in German football when it took over fifth-division club SSV Markranstadt and turned it into RB Leipzig.

Red Bull owns Red Bull Salzburg, New York Red Bulls, Brazilian club Red Bull Bragantino and recently acquired a stake in Leeds United. It is also financing RB Leipzig while not technically owning the Bundesliga club.

Klopp, who left Liverpool at the end of last season after "running out of energy", has received a lot of criticism for joining the Austrians - especially among fans of his former club Borussia Dortmund.

German Football Association (DFB) laws state German clubs must operate on a '50+1' rule, meaning members - essentially fans - own the majority of shares and can influence decisions such as ticket prices.

Rivals feel RB Leipzig exploited the system by having just 17 members with voting rights - most are directly linked to Red Bull - and got around a law stating teams must not be named after sponsors by officially calling the club RasenBallsport Leipzig, which translates as LawnBallsport Leipzig.

RB are often referred to as the "most hated club in Germany" and have faced regular protests by opposition fans, ranging from boycotting games to the arrest of 28 Borussia Dortmund fans for throwing cans and stones at rival supporters in 2017.

Borussia Dortmund have been critical of the rise of clubs such as Leipzig that have very little tradition and are accused of being used as marketing vehicles.

Klopp has also been critical of the multi-club model, saying in 2017: "I'm a football romantic and I like tradition in football and all that stuff. In Germany, only two clubs sing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' before the game - and that is Mainz and Dortmund."

German newspaper Bild's head of football, Christian Falk, said Klopp's move had been controversial in the country - and had been especially difficult for Dortmund fans to accept.

He told BBC Radio 5 Live's Euro Leagues podcast: "I have been working on the story since May but Jurgen always hesitated - he wasn't sure he wanted to make that step. He won't have to work so hard as he did at Liverpool. He won't have to watch football every day.

"It is true it is controversial. There is a big discussion in Germany at the moment about 'has he sold his soul?'

"I would say no, because Leipzig is a big club. Of course it is hard in particular for Dortmund fans because there were big fights and they have always said it is a tinpot club - it is not traditional.

"But, by the end, after say a month or so, it will die down. The love for Jurgen Klopp in this country means he can almost do anything."

Given Klopp's history with Dortmund, where he worked from 2008 to 2015, supporters of the club were particularly upset on social media with their long-time hero.

"How much can one squander their reputation within a second?" one user posted on X after the news of Klopp's appointment on Wednesday morning.

Another wrote: "I have something positive from the Klopp message for you: In Dortmund, it is now finally possible to emotionally close the Jurgen Klopp era. No more nostalgic moaning that is hindering the current sporting process."

Others have accused him of being a "hypocrite" and "selling out".

Meanwhile, some made fun of Klopp's statement in February when he announced he would leave Liverpool at the end of the 2023-24 season as he felt he was running out of energy, saying that he will not run out of energy anymore with enough Red Bull drinks.

Someone who was less upset about the news was Hans-Joachim Watzke, long-time chief executive of Dortmund who once worked with Klopp during some of the club's most successful years.

Even though the Dortmund powerbroker has expressed his resentment towards Leipzig and similarly funded clubs in the past, his friendship with - and respect for - Klopp led to a more diplomatic response.

"I wish Jurgen, as essentially always, to be lucky in his new job. It was not a surprise to me, because we had personally talked about it," Watzke said.

Many fans and figures from German football have been hoping Klopp would take over the Germany team - potentially after the 2026 World Cup when current manager Julian Nagelsmann is expected to return to club football.

Lothar Matthaus expressed his hope that Klopp will not remain a board-level and backroom figure forever.

"I believe Red Bull thinks very big – Jurgen Klopp is very big. It fits together," the former Bayern Munich and Germany captain said.

"There will be changes, as he will receive the total support of the company. Then let's see how it turns out, and let's nevertheless hope that he will perhaps return to the coaching bench at some point in the coming years."

Klopp has made sure he has the option to leave Red Bull if he ever decides to become Germany coach.

And regardless of the ridicule that his decision received on Wednesday, Klopp is a large enough personality to be welcomed as the new national coach if he receives the chance.

Almost nine years to the day after Klopp began his tenure at Liverpool, he now starts a completely new chapter in his career.

[Yozza]

It's £lopp from now on...

[Fivex]

Dortmund fans riled by Klopp's Red Bull move

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c89l5xx8n1xo

Jurgen Klopp's reputation among supporters in Germany is taking a hit after his appointment as head of global soccer at Red Bull.

The Austrian energy drinks producer has landed a public relations coup by hiring one of the most respected figures in German and European football.

Beginning in January, Klopp will oversee all footballing developments within the company.

In 2009, though, Red Bull caused controversy in German football when it took over fifth-division club SSV Markranstadt and turned it into RB Leipzig.

Red Bull owns Red Bull Salzburg, New York Red Bulls, Brazilian club Red Bull Bragantino and recently acquired a stake in Leeds United. It is also financing RB Leipzig while not technically owning the Bundesliga club.

Klopp, who left Liverpool at the end of last season after "running out of energy", has received a lot of criticism for joining the Austrians - especially among fans of his former club Borussia Dortmund.

German Football Association (DFB) laws state German clubs must operate on a '50+1' rule, meaning members - essentially fans - own the majority of shares and can influence decisions such as ticket prices.

Rivals feel RB Leipzig exploited the system by having just 17 members with voting rights - most are directly linked to Red Bull - and got around a law stating teams must not be named after sponsors by officially calling the club RasenBallsport Leipzig, which translates as LawnBallsport Leipzig.

RB are often referred to as the "most hated club in Germany" and have faced regular protests by opposition fans, ranging from boycotting games to the arrest of 28 Borussia Dortmund fans for throwing cans and stones at rival supporters in 2017.

Borussia Dortmund have been critical of the rise of clubs such as Leipzig that have very little tradition and are accused of being used as marketing vehicles.

Klopp has also been critical of the multi-club model, saying in 2017: "I'm a football romantic and I like tradition in football and all that stuff. In Germany, only two clubs sing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' before the game - and that is Mainz and Dortmund."

German newspaper Bild's head of football, Christian Falk, said Klopp's move had been controversial in the country - and had been especially difficult for Dortmund fans to accept.

He told BBC Radio 5 Live's Euro Leagues podcast: "I have been working on the story since May but Jurgen always hesitated - he wasn't sure he wanted to make that step. He won't have to work so hard as he did at Liverpool. He won't have to watch football every day.

"It is true it is controversial. There is a big discussion in Germany at the moment about 'has he sold his soul?'

"I would say no, because Leipzig is a big club. Of course it is hard in particular for Dortmund fans because there were big fights and they have always said it is a tinpot club - it is not traditional.

"But, by the end, after say a month or so, it will die down. The love for Jurgen Klopp in this country means he can almost do anything."

Given Klopp's history with Dortmund, where he worked from 2008 to 2015, supporters of the club were particularly upset on social media with their long-time hero.

"How much can one squander their reputation within a second?" one user posted on X after the news of Klopp's appointment on Wednesday morning.

Another wrote: "I have something positive from the Klopp message for you: In Dortmund, it is now finally possible to emotionally close the Jurgen Klopp era. No more nostalgic moaning that is hindering the current sporting process."

Others have accused him of being a "hypocrite" and "selling out".

Meanwhile, some made fun of Klopp's statement in February when he announced he would leave Liverpool at the end of the 2023-24 season as he felt he was running out of energy, saying that he will not run out of energy anymore with enough Red Bull drinks.

Someone who was less upset about the news was Hans-Joachim Watzke, long-time chief executive of Dortmund who once worked with Klopp during some of the club's most successful years.

Even though the Dortmund powerbroker has expressed his resentment towards Leipzig and similarly funded clubs in the past, his friendship with - and respect for - Klopp led to a more diplomatic response.

"I wish Jurgen, as essentially always, to be lucky in his new job. It was not a surprise to me, because we had personally talked about it," Watzke said.

Many fans and figures from German football have been hoping Klopp would take over the Germany team - potentially after the 2026 World Cup when current manager Julian Nagelsmann is expected to return to club football.

Lothar Matthaus expressed his hope that Klopp will not remain a board-level and backroom figure forever.

"I believe Red Bull thinks very big – Jurgen Klopp is very big. It fits together," the former Bayern Munich and Germany captain said.

"There will be changes, as he will receive the total support of the company. Then let's see how it turns out, and let's nevertheless hope that he will perhaps return to the coaching bench at some point in the coming years."

Klopp has made sure he has the option to leave Red Bull if he ever decides to become Germany coach.

And regardless of the ridicule that his decision received on Wednesday, Klopp is a large enough personality to be welcomed as the new national coach if he receives the chance.

Almost nine years to the day after Klopp began his tenure at Liverpool, he now starts a completely new chapter in his career.

thanks for posting

[Doc_Piptorious]

thats really sad and disapointing...that he has sold his soul to Red Bull

He has long spoken highly of RB though. Did so when he was at Dortmund and again whilst with us.


Are RB and their group unpopular around Germany? Yes yes they very much are unpopular with a lot of people, but Klopp praised them repeatedly for years so he is being true to how he saw them back then imo.


We as supporters might have wished him to follow paths that fit in with our image of the man, but that is not to be in this case.


Me I think that unless he does something really bad in life I am going to judge him by all the great moments he played a part in bringing as manager of LFC.


Would most likely be very different if I were German and/or a supporter of Dortmund or Mainz, then I would have the "local" view/opinion about it, but here on an LFC fansite and as a supporter of LFC I hope the man remains happy in life and that this move is the right move for him and his family.

[Kenneth]

Claim that Klopp agreed to take the red bull role in 2022:

https://www.tz.de/sport/fussball/klopp-deal-mit-red-bull-steht-schon-seit-zwei-jahren-brisante-mateschitz-infos-93347781.html

Jürgen Klopp is moving to Red Bull. He will take up the position on January 1, 2025. However, he already made the decision to take this step in 2022.

Salzburg - September 2022, a villa in Salzburg. Behind the closed door lies a terminally ill man, visiting him is a perfectly healthy one - and the conversation between the two men points the way forward. Klopp's deal with Red Bull has been in place for two years: Explosive Mateschitz info revealed

Dietrich Mateschitz, who died a few weeks after this conversation, did not live to see that more than two years later it would cause the biggest bang in the soccer industry.

But the RB boss knew in those hours in his Austrian villa that he had pulled off a real coup shortly before his imminent demise. As Münchner Merkur/tz learned, the then 78-year-old had personally convinced Jürgen Klopp to move to RB - and had bagged the deal for January 2025. Jürgen Klopp already knew his sporting future in 2022

Since Wednesday, the world has known what Klopp has known for more than two years. For over a year and a half, the 57-year-old stood on the Liverpool FC touchline knowing that he would be finished after the 2023/24 season. He responded to all the inquiries that were reportedly made in the summer by the British and US associations, among others, in the knowledge that he would have to turn them down anyway.

The statements Klopp made about RB two years ago now also appear in a different light. Back then, he spoke strikingly positively about Leipzig and the world around it. “The principle is to develop young players. The idea is a soccer idea - and not a money idea.” Words that might have been spoken in one way or another at the Villa in Salzburg.

When he announced his departure from Liverpool, Klopp said that he would “no longer see himself on the touchline” - and that is what he has done. He now sees Red Bull as the “perfect platform. I love soccer and I love working.”

He has already been in talks in the background in recent weeks, and RB is looking forward to his arrival. Klopp has taken into account that soccer traditionalists will reject the coup of the billion-euro group. It was no coincidence that he has made appearances in both Mainz and Dortmund since leaving Liverpool. September was his farewell tour of his former clubs.

He already knew what nobody could have guessed: that the applause would die down and his legendary status would crumble when the bombshell burst. In the 2025/26 season, he will probably feel the resentment of the Dortmund South Stand personally for the first time. Klopp is not yet in office for the first leg of the current season (2.11.).

Nevertheless, he is already following everything from afar, as he has done for the last two years. Helmut Marko, RB's chief motorsport consultant, can only smile about deals like these. The 81-year-old told our newspaper: “It's incredible how such a mega-deal could remain secret for so long. That would never have been possible in Formula 1.”

[dom9]

So by that token it follows that he pre-hired Lijnders at Salzburg. Or at least had a major say in the matter.

[Mark79]

Klopp signed a contract extension to 2026 in April of 2022, so would beg the question wtf happened over the next few months?

[kingfunk]

Apparently Klopp wanted to sign Antony to replace Salah before he went to united, but Gordon vetoed it deciding to renew Salah’s contract instead. Perhaps that’s when their relationship turned a little?!

[Doc_Piptorious]

Klopp signed a contract extension to 2026 in April of 2022, so would beg the question wtf happened over the next few months?

Could it not be as simple as what the man himself said and that he felt burned out and was running on empty?


Not many driven people have the ability and self awareness to just call it quits when they know they have hit a wall that they cannot power through.

So in my eyes he was brave enough to hold up his hands and say he had enough. He did what was best for his own health and also what was best for the team he was leading.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Apparently Klopp wanted to sign Antony to replace Salah before he went to united, but Gordon vetoed it deciding to renew Salah’s contract instead. Perhaps that’s when their relationship turned a little?!

Doubt it tbh. Klopp was meant to have been overruled at the time we got Salah as well.

Was it not Brandt that Klopp was rumoured to have wanted and the club disagreed and Salah was targeted instead?

Think Klopp comes across as being too pragmatic a man for that to have led to him leaving.



Though I was going to reply with "He wanted Antony? Should have sacked Klopp on the spot". But that would then mean having to go back and finding posts of my own from years ago when I thought Antony looked a talent.

I can blame Fifa21 or Fifa22, what's Klopp's excuse

[RedReet]

I'm sure Klopp thought that being called a German **** so publically was as bad as it would get, but f*ck me, someone is really trying to hurt him with this.

[labourRed]

I'm sure Klopp thought that being called a German **** so publically was as bad as it would get, but f*ck me, someone is really trying to hurt him with this.

Antony definitely wouldn't pass the prick test.

He may have been wanted, but once talks got underway no way would they have signed him. Rumour doesn't pass the smell test anyway.

[kingfunk]

Doubt it tbh. Klopp was meant to have been overruled at the time we got Salah as well.

Was it not Brandt that Klopp was rumoured to have wanted and the club disagreed and Salah was targeted instead?

Think Klopp comes across as being too pragmatic a man for that to have led to him leaving.



Though I was going to reply with "He wanted Antony? Should have sacked Klopp on the spot". But that would then mean having to go back and finding posts of my own from years ago when I thought Antony looked a talent.

I can blame Fifa21 or Fifa22, what's Klopp's excuse

I meant his relationship with Salah rather than the club.