Georginio Wijnaldum

[Norbs]

Well it was only last week or so when he was again on about how he left us because he was not made feel wanted.

Seems his now many interviews about why he left us each came right after a poor performance for PSG and his latest run of comments about us cam,e right before his stinker against Brugge.

Maybe forget about drip feeding complaints about us Gin, and concentrate on actually playing well for the team you now play for.


Does seem to be having trouble keeping his mouth shut as before his awful performance against Brugge he also said in his interview how Barca are his dream club and how they are the club he always wanted to join. Way to get the fans of your current club onside fella.

He's not going to be loved more anywhere else. It's all about the $$$ and good luck to him

[Doc_Piptorious]

He's not going to be loved more anywhere else. It's all about the $$$ and good luck to him

Do not disagree with anything there.

Just think he would be better served by saying less instead of giving regular interviews with negative comments about us, and also throwing in comments about his dream club wich just so happens to not be the club he himself chose to move to.


Think he would be better off not making the comments and that way he does not tarnish his reputation with us any further and he would not be getting the fans of his new club offside almost as soon as he is in the door.


The less negative he says about LFC, the focus would then be on what he did on the pitch, and history would be kind on any player whose legacy included being part of a team that won the first league title in decades, a CL and other silverware. As time went by, the less impressive perfromances of his final season with us would be forgotten, and the many impressive ones during his time here would be what he gets remembered for.

[Exiled_red]

It's an odd one, if you want to go somewhere to be appreciated I think you need to either move to become a big fish in a small pond or somewhere that massive numbers of egos aren't an issue. The likes of PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid don't seem like the right move if that is your motivation. As Norbs said It's doubtful he will be loved more elsewhere. It's almost as if that wasn't the main factor in his decision...

[Doc_Piptorious]

It's an odd one, if you want to go somewhere to be appreciated I think you need to either move to become a big fish in a small pond or somewhere that massive numbers of egos aren't an issue. The likes of PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid don't seem like the right move if that is your motivation. As Norbs said It's doubtful he will be loved more elsewhere. It's almost as if that wasn't the main factor in his decision...

Oh I have no doubt that he moved for the £££ and fair play on that score as they have a short enough career so are entitled to make as much as they can when they can.

I was more mulling over how he seeminly cannot stop talking about both us and Barca since he moved and with regards to us it goes from how the fans did not treat him with respect to how the club did not make him fell wanted and what not.

With regards to Barca, a club he had agreed to join before he himself shut the move down to go to PSG, he keeps going on about how Barca are his dream club and how he would love to play for them. Errrr you had agreed to go there but you knocked it back, fella.

His performances for PSG have been ranging for very average to utterly awful so far, so one would think he would be keeping the head down and not giving interviews before PSG games in which he spends more time talking about his former club and a club he never played for more than his current club.

Whilst I am one that thought his performances for us were not great for a chunk of last season but that over the course of his career for us he was a bloody good buy, I kind of wish he would just get on with playing for PSG and not feel like he has to have a moan about LFC on such a regular basis. The Gini of the Barca semi final and other such games is how I would prefer to remember him rather than him popping up in the here and now having little pops at the club and the whingy him being the one that is easier to see.

[Mr Pink]

It’s early days for him, but it’s looking like he might go into the same bin as Can and Coutinho, who thought they were moving on to better things, and it didn’t really work out for them…

Is there anyone who did move from the club, under klopp, when the club didn’t want them to leave, who went on to better things?

[RedReet]

Ings probably best example. He knew he wasn't leaving to have more success elsewhere, but he wanted first team football and to be recognised as a quality player, which he succeeded in doing.

Lucas too I guess, for similar reasons

[red g]

Ings probably best example. He knew he wasn't leaving to have more success elsewhere, but he wanted first team football and to be recognised as a quality player, which he succeeded in doing.

Lucas too I guess, for similar reasons

add Lovren the Russian league and cup winner to that list too,

[baitman]

Is there anyone who did move from the club, under klopp, when the club didn’t want them to leave, who went on to better things?

Its also worth considering whether they move to a competitive league too...
Coutinho moved to real but was hardly a major influence in any of their success.
Suarez was a major influence at barca, even though they were already a top team, except at Anfield of course.

[Mr Pink]

Ings probably best example. He knew he wasn't leaving to have more success elsewhere, but he wanted first team football and to be recognised as a quality player, which he succeeded in doing.

Lucas too I guess, for similar reasons

Yaaa was a good move for ings for sure- but I think LFC were happy for him to move on too, right? I remember thinking he’d do well somewhere else (obv didn’t think he’d do as well as he did).

But players like ings, Lucas, lovren, shaq, etc were players that the club were happy to move on.. I can’t think of anyone that we wanted to keep, who left (since klopp came in) and wouldn’t have regretted leaving…

[RedReet]

Yaaa was a good move for ings for sure- but I think LFC were happy for him to move on too, right? I remember thinking he’d do well somewhere else (obv didn’t think he’d do as well as he did).

But players like ings, Lucas, lovren, shaq, etc were players that the club were happy to move on.. I can’t think of anyone that we wanted to keep, who left (since klopp came in) and wouldn’t have regretted leaving…

Klopp was desperate to keep Ings and wanted Lucas to stay too, but put their needs in front of his own and let them leave.

Klavan left in similar circumstances too and perhaps why it's perceived that the club were happy to release them was because it ended on amicable terms and not played out in the media by agents.

And another probably more plausible explanation was that because the fans thought these players were ****, it's logical to assume Klopp thought the same.

[Mr Pink]

Klopp was desperate to keep Ings and wanted Lucas to stay too, but put their needs in front of his own and let them leave.

Klavan left in similar circumstances too and perhaps why it's perceived that the club were happy to release them was because it ended on amicable terms and not played out in the media by agents.

And another probably more plausible explanation was that because the fans thought these players were ****, it's logical to assume Klopp thought the same.

[frank the tank]

Yaaa was a good move for ings for sure- but I think LFC were happy for him to move on too, right? I remember thinking he’d do well somewhere else (obv didn’t think he’d do as well as he did).

But players like ings, Lucas, lovren, shaq, etc were players that the club were happy to move on.. I can’t think of anyone that we wanted to keep, who left (since klopp came in) and wouldn’t have regretted leaving…

Think it was just Can, Coutinho and Gini like you said.

The only other one I think we were happy to keep would be mignolet but even then I'm not too sure either. Can't believe Karius used to keep mignolet out of the team ffs!!!

Maybe yer man Camacho too??? Or Hoever?? But in reality they weren't going to be first reamers at LFC

[SB]

Its also worth considering whether they move to a competitive league too...
Coutinho moved to real but was hardly a major influence in any of their success.
Suarez was a major influence at barca, even though they were already a top team, except at Anfield of course.

Not how I remember it

[baitman]

Not how I remember it

Oh yeh

[Exiled_red]

Think it was just Can, Coutinho and Gini like you said.

The only other one I think we were happy to keep would be mignolet but even then I'm not too sure either. Can't believe Karius used to keep mignolet out of the team ffs!!!

Maybe yer man Camacho too??? Or Hoever?? But in reality they weren't going to be first reamers at LFC

Mignolet we might have been happy to keep as backup but it's somewhat naive to think he would have been happy with that role long term, also I suspect in terms of wages we would have been happy to get him off the wage bill.

Camacho IIRC was essentially homesick or unhappy with his role, we might have liked to have kept him but it's difficult to see that he would have had a route to the first team. Hoever I think was just the situation of every player having his price and £10m given where he was at in his development was too good to refuse, maybe sometime down the road that will look like a mistake, alternatively we could be laughing that we got so much for him, who knows.

As of yet I don't think any of those three have done anything to make us regret those decisions however they were arrived at.

I think you have to go back to Suarez as the last player who went on to achieve better things, everyone since maybe they'd be decent squad players if they stayed, perhaps the likes of Coutinho and Wijnaldum could still have been more than that, but it seems they are the ones with the regrets.