Georginio Wijnaldum

[S-RED]

night before huge game & the 'daily manc' print a bull**** story...... that is sir ale mid 90's mind games stuff...........

[baitman]

Will he follow koeman to his new club

[Shaggy]

[ame]https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1350449111015813126[/ame]

[Roboklopp]

Surely England is now a less attractive place if you’ve family back in the EU? I mean, it’s a far less attractive place for me post Brexit and my family is here.

My missus is already experiencing issues with practicalities regarding her own family back in Estonia, even after ignoring my arguably subjective take on the issue.

[Fivex]

Has he got kids? Who knows, could be over schooling or something

[Exiled_red]

I think there is more to it than money. According to reports we first offered him a contract 18 months ago that would double his £75k a week wages to £150k. If his contract runs to the end without signing a new one that decision not to sign has cost him £7.5m in lost wages (equivalent to a year's salary at £150k), supposedly the dispute between him and the club is over an extra year, he wants 4 years we offered 3.

[BG1973]

...he might feel undervalued by the hierarchy at the club, but I'm sure he doesn't think that about the fans, manager and backroom staff... he always comes across like he's proper entrenched in the fabric of those groups.

This is a commercial decision more than anything. He needs one last payday and as much as he wants to stay, he also wants serious wedge and a long-term contract... it's a crossroads. The club don't value him to the extent he wants. He'll see it as some kind of 'loyalty contract' for services rendered and the club will be looking at younger, cheaper, longer-term replacements to benefit the team and club. The last chunky contract is always the toughest one to negotiate or come to terms with...

Yeah hope he does realise what we all think of him. Would hate for him to leave feeling anything other than a superstar which is what's he's been. Hence my note about pity fans not in grounds to let him know all that.

Whatever happens, legend.

[S-RED]

I get that he wants to maximize his earnings, but once you get to a certain point (5 mill PA), surely it would become more about on-field success?

He seems to be an intelligent guy, so it cannot be an agent lead thing?

That said, perhaps he just wants to sample a couple of seasons in Spain or Italy?

[Tribute]

No, but looks like he's going to leave under a cloud feeling abut undervalued.

...he might feel undervalued by the hierarchy at the club, but I'm sure he doesn't think that about the fans, manager and backroom staff... he always comes across like he's proper entrenched in the fabric of those groups.

This is a commercial decision more than anything. He needs one last payday and as much as he wants to stay, he also wants serious wedge and a long-term contract... it's a crossroads. The club don't value him to the extent he wants. He'll see it as some kind of 'loyalty contract' for services rendered and the club will be looking at younger, cheaper, longer-term replacements to benefit the team and club. The last chunky contract is always the toughest one to negotiate or come to terms with...

[Cormack74]

Bob Paisley always looked to replace 2 or 3. Our downfall began when Kenny didn't do that and instead allowed the team grew old (and too old) together.

Kenny liked to spend IIRC. I think his judgement went a bit towards the end when we were signing the likes of David Speedie though.

Maybe not surprising all things considered.

[BG1973]

No, but looks like he's going to leave under a cloud feeling abut undervalued.

[Kenneth]

I don't think he's looking for love tbh.

[Norbs]

He's sung about more than Hendo, Alisson or Trent. Not sure players take that much notice of the crowd

[BG1973]

Just hope he realises how valued he is by the fans. Shame nobody in the stadium to tell him.

[Paul12]

True, but each season we should be looking to replace/upgrade at least one player from the first eleven... if they all hit 30+ at the same time, we'll be scrambling to do a complete rebuild. Rather lose one or two key players a season if we can replace them with someone better or younger, preferably both...

Bob Paisley always looked to replace 2 or 3. Our downfall began when Kenny didn't do that and instead allowed the team grew old (and too old) together.