Naby Keita

[danperkins]

Yeah true enough

[Doc_Piptorious]

What!! ah come off it Jaco, I'm surprised as your responses are usually so measured

He has been outstanding this season, one of the players of the season and a talisman for Villa. Let's not compare Grealish's performances with Naby as it's a insult to poor oul Jack. You say 7 out of 10 for Naby, I think that's a stretch but all about opinions

No I said Grealish is a 7/10 player as in that is pretty much the minimum you get out of him most games and that I did not mean that as in he would not put in even better performances at times. Thought that was clear enough from the paragraph right under what you highlighted.


Grealish is certainly not a higher tier player for me though, not yet anyway if at all, as for me you need to be a VVD level player to be that as in the usual for that level player is like a regular player playing out of their skin.

[danperkins]

No I said Grealish is a 7/10 player as in that is pretty much the minimum you get out of him most games and that I did not mean that as in he would not put in even better performances at times. Thought that was clear enough from the paragraph right under what you highlighted.


Grealish is certainly not a higher tier player for me though, not yet anyway if at all, as for me you need to be a VVD level player to be that as in the usual for that level player is like a regular player playing out of their skin.

I said earlier "Too many questions imo and we didn't pay that amount of money for 6 or 7 out of 10 players in my opinion." You replied "A player that gives you 7/10 every week will cost that sort of money nowadays". Referring to Keita obviously.

So you are saying Keita is a minimum 7 out of 10 performer? I thought you were generous giving him 7 in general. Grealish is not at a top tier club yet but he has put in top tier performances this season, many stand out performances. So much so that he in the summer we are going to see huge bids coming in for him from huge clubs & he will eventually get his chance to see can he do it at the highest level. Has Keita ever had a man of the match performance since playing for Liverpool or even one where he has stood out? I don't remember any. Obviously two totally different players but you don't have to have flair or score goals to stand out (Fernandinho, Kante etc). To me Keita has been mildly functional at best when he has played.

[rudedog]

Can't believe we've had four pages discussing the worst LFC signings and nobody has mentioned Ballotelli

It's like his time at the club has been collectively wiped from people's memories like some kind of PTSD coping mechanism

[Mark79]

Can't believe we've had four pages discussing the worst LFC signings and nobody has mentioned Ballotelli

It's like his time at the club has been collectively wiped from people's memories like some kind of PTSD coping mechanism

True, though I’d say Naby is a very good signing blighted by bad luck.

Others like Carroll, Downing, Balotelli, Djibril Cisse, El Hadj Diouf were all big money or even marquee signings of the time. Some of them were hampered by injury too, but they were all far poorer than Naby in terms of quality and fit and also in terms of value for money too.

I know you don’t agree, but at least Naby does actually show his value when he’s playing, unlike that lot and many others.

I wish

[danperkins]

Can't believe we've had four pages discussing the worst LFC signings and nobody has mentioned Ballotelli

It's like his time at the club has been collectively wiped from people's memories like some kind of PTSD coping mechanism

another one I totally forgot. Yeah an absolute disaster.

[ntto]

and for different reasons you could say Robbie Keane was a massive flop

[Roboklopp]

Can't believe we've had four pages discussing the worst LFC signings and nobody has mentioned Ballotelli

It's like his time at the club has been collectively wiped from people's memories like some kind of PTSD coping mechanism

TBF neither did Bodge


Balotelli also sticks out as a terrible signing for me. We knew he was a **** and inconsistent on the field at best & still chucked best part of £20m at him. Even worse than Downing who was a massively overpriced mehhhhhhh.

:****ingshake:

[Rich]

Can't believe we've had four pages discussing the worst LFC signings and nobody has mentioned Ballotelli

It's like his time at the club has been collectively wiped from people's memories like some kind of PTSD coping mechanism

God yeah! £16m to a FREE in only 2 seasons.

[danperkins]

and for different reasons you could say Robbie Keane was a massive flop

To be fair there's a big difference between a player being injured and unavailable and a manager trying to change a goal poacher into something else. Why did Rafa buy him if he wanted to change the way he played? Gerrard & Carra have commented on this and Keane has said it himself. 5 goals in 19 appearances and then sold by Rafa.

[frank the tank]

yeah that did feel like it was rafa making a point...... when we signed Keane i thought that he would be good with Torres..

[Doc_Piptorious]

and for different reasons you could say Robbie Keane was a massive flop

Yeah just look where he was from.

[Doc_Piptorious]

yeah that did feel like it was rafa making a point...... when we signed Keane i thought that he would be good with Torres..

It was a point well made though. How many Tallaght lads have you seen play for us since? Well in Rafa.

[danperkins]

yeah that did feel like it was rafa making a point...... when we signed Keane i thought that he would be good with Torres..

I think Keane could have been a great signing but Rafa was having none of it. Keane didn't want to change his game, it's the way he had been playing his whole career and why we bought. Ancient history now but pretty obvious he wasn't given a fair crack.

It's terrible too as it was his dream to play for LFC... oh and Wolves and Coventry and Leeds and and Inter and Spurs and Celtic and Villa and LA Galaxy and ATK

[Fivex]

We can probably trace back these atrocities to the time we failed to sign Anelka permanently when that was the most obvious (and good value to boot) signing of recent times.