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I hope he’s sold in the summer- and not just on the back of last nights performance- I’ve been saying it for a while that the likes of Keita, origi, ox, etc need to be phased out. Overpaid bench warmers that have done very little, when we actually need them to deliver...
Also I think klopp really dropped the ball last night, by starting him. Putting any player in for his first game back, in the biggest game of the season would be risky- putting in a hot and cold player like Keita is a stupid risk to take imo. Also could tell it wasn’t working after 5 min! I’d have liked to have seen him hooked after 25 min, given that we have 5 subs. It was clear that it wasn’t working, and their midfield was having a field day- the goals were a matter of time..I don't tip
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Whilst I agree that we have far too many sicknotes who are not able to put in a decent performance when called upon... or can stay fit longer than two games in a row... I think there's bugger all chance of all three of them being moved on in the summer.Originally posted by Mr Pink View PostI hope he’s sold in the summer- and not just on the back of last nights performance- I’ve been saying it for a while that the likes of Keita, origi, ox, etc need to be phased out. Overpaid bench warmers that have done very little, when we actually need them to deliver...
Also I think klopp really dropped the ball last night, by starting him. Putting any player in for his first game back, in the biggest game of the season would be risky- putting in a hot and cold player like Keita is a stupid risk to take imo. Also could tell it wasn’t working after 5 min! I’d have liked to have seen him hooked after 25 min, given that we have 5 subs. It was clear that it wasn’t working, and their midfield was having a field day- the goals were a matter of time..
Most clubs will have small transfer budgets due to the pandemic impact commercially and unless we're desperate to get rid and off the wage bill, we'll lose big money compared to outlay.
If we are putting together a list of 'sicknotes' or just not able to make an impact when they come on, or have been loaned out endlessly... the list would be huge, including some recent signings who have never made much of a dent in the matchday squads...
Keita, Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Adrian, Woodburn, Minamino, Grujic, Karius, Ojo, Wilson, Van Den Berg, Matip, Tsimikas, Davies, N. Williams, R. Williams, Phillips (assuming we buy Kabak and another CB), and probably a couple of others I've forgotten about... it's a long list!
How many of these will be moved on in summer...??
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Apart from the last 5 surely you'd want to offload all of them. Their value isn't likely to go up from now on and they are getting paid for very little. Waiting for a better price doesn't feel like an option, paying their wages for another year doesn't make sense.Originally posted by Tribute View PostWhilst I agree that we have far too many sicknotes who are not able to put in a decent performance when called upon... or can stay fit longer than two games in a row... I think there's bugger all chance of all three of them being moved on in the summer.
Most clubs will have small transfer budgets due to the pandemic impact commercially and unless we're desperate to get rid and off the wage bill, we'll lose big money compared to outlay.
If we are putting together a list of 'sicknotes' or just not able to make an impact when they come on, or have been loaned out endlessly... the list would be huge, including some recent signings who have never made much of a dent in the matchday squads...
Keita, Ox, Shaqiri, Origi, Adrian, Woodburn, Minamino, Grujic, Karius, Ojo, Wilson, Van Den Berg, Matip, Tsimikas, Davies, N. Williams, R. Williams, Phillips (assuming we buy Kabak and another CB), and probably a couple of others I've forgotten about... it's a long list!
How many of these will be moved on in summer...??Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad
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Originally posted by topscorer View PostWe'll be lucky to get £20m for him at the moment and hauling him off 2 minutes before half time won't make Edward's job any easier.
definitely going to take a hit. I reckon we'll loan him out back to Germany somewhere. Hopefully have a good season and maybe teams get back on their feet after covid and make some cash back on him.
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Originally posted by Mr Pink View PostI hope he’s sold in the summer- and not just on the back of last nights performance- I’ve been saying it for a while that the likes of Keita, origi, ox, etc need to be phased out. Overpaid bench warmers that have done very little, when we actually need them to deliver...
Also I think klopp really dropped the ball last night, by starting him. Putting any player in for his first game back, in the biggest game of the season would be risky- putting in a hot and cold player like Keita is a stupid risk to take imo. Also could tell it wasn’t working after 5 min! I’d have liked to have seen him hooked after 25 min, given that we have 5 subs. It was clear that it wasn’t working, and their midfield was having a field day- the goals were a matter of time..
spot on this
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Whatever you might think about the likes of Ox, Keita, Shaq, Origi, Adrian, Minamino and Matip they represent about a quarter of our senior squad and our squad isn't excessively large, you would probably need to replace them with at least 4 other players from somewhere that's still a significant overhaul. That's before you consider Wijnaldum leaving and needing to be replaced and any other business we want or need to do concerning the first team. I just don't see that many players plus the likes of Wilson, Grujic etc all being moved on in a single window.Originally posted by Venton View PostApart from the last 5 surely you'd want to offload all of them. Their value isn't likely to go up from now on and they are getting paid for very little. Waiting for a better price doesn't feel like an option, paying their wages for another year doesn't make sense.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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I'd be surprised if we did offload them all because it's a lot of work to undertake. But looking at that list you'd want to replace them if you could - Ox and Matip because of their injuries, if you're bringing the others on something has gone horribly wrong. Maybe I'm being a bit tight on Shaq there. You're right though, that is a serious overhaul.Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostWhatever you might think about the likes of Ox, Keita, Shaq, Origi, Adrian, Minamino and Matip they represent about a quarter of our senior squad and our squad isn't excessively large, you would probably need to replace them with at least 4 other players from somewhere that's still a significant overhaul. That's before you consider Wijnaldum leaving and needing to be replaced and any other business we want or need to do concerning the first team. I just don't see that many players plus the likes of Wilson, Grujic etc all being moved on in a single window.Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad
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It would be really galling to see him move on, stay fit and be brilliant somewhere else, but it's probably time he moved on.
We've been linked with Harvey Barnes quite heavily, and Tielemans would be a great signing imo....so maybe we could get something done with them.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Yeah Keita is done here imo, been a disaster signing. Tielemans is a great shout imo, such a good player.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostIt would be really galling to see him move on, stay fit and be brilliant somewhere else, but it's probably time he moved on.
We've been linked with Harvey Barnes quite heavily, and Tielemans would be a great signing imo....so maybe we could get something done with them.
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Yep, effectively replacing Naby & Gini with one move here!...would be priced out of a move though!Originally posted by danperkins View PostYeah Keita is done here imo, been a disaster signing. Tielemans is a great shout imo, such a good player.Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!
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