for ****s sake, his ****ing loss ...time to buy another player in his position
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Get fit then sell, ior it'll be rinse and repeatOriginally posted by Nicey View Postfor ****s sake, his ****ing loss ...time to buy another player in his position
removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
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Everyone gets injured and gets impact injuries. Naby has been unlucky this season with both which have really disrupted his first season with us.Originally posted by labourRed View PostAre we overreacting, hasn't he just got lumps and bruises. If that's the case, it's a blessing.
I think people are just annoyed as he shouldn't have been anywhere near that tournament.
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It’s no surprise to anyone he’s injured, since he was already injured before Guinea decided to play him in AFCON anyway.Originally posted by BigChief View PostNo surprise to me he's injured. Shame as I like the guy. Just as I like Ox, but we all know what we're expecting next, right?
Definitely need one more creative player..
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There should be a clause that a country's FA are liable for damages if a player assessed to be injured by their club is played against club's advice.
This could lend itself to clubs purposely withholding players but these tin pot international teams need to stop risking their player's health and our chances of success.Was muß, das muß.
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I remember reading articles about this years ago, the problem with doing it was that small countries who had world class players might not be able to afford to pay their clubs back if they were injured on international duty, I think the example at the time was George Weah and Liberia which tells you how long ago it was.Originally posted by foresterbloke View PostThere should be a clause that a country's FA are liable for damages if a player assessed to be injured by their club is played against club's advice.
This could lend itself to clubs purposely withholding players but these tin pot international teams need to stop risking their player's health and our chances of success.
For me the problem comes from international sides not giving a **** about anyone but themselves, as long as they can get the few games out of the player that they need they don't care if the player misses games for his club. I guess to be fair the club feel the same about international games, the difference is that the club are paying the player's wages and are managing the player's fitness long term. There is a clear conflict of interest and there should be some appropriate process to manage these conflicts, I think that we all could see this coming which makes it all the more frustrating, but the club couldn't do anything about it.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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I think in this case it's fair to say the management team of Guinea isn't qualified enough to either understand or make a true judgement of when they should or shouldn't play their best player. I might be making a sweeping assessment here but I would say their setup is conference level at best. No way these small countries in developing world's have the resources we are so used such as sports science. I'm sure a few still believe in witchcraft. That's the reality and the risk of buying these players. We have no right to deny them a player. It's frustrating but we could of signed someone less risk. I'm sure Naby will be fine.Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostI remember reading articles about this years ago, the problem with doing it was that small countries who had world class players might not be able to afford to pay their clubs back if they were injured on international duty, I think the example at the time was George Weah and Liberia which tells you how long ago it was.
For me the problem comes from international sides not giving a **** about anyone but themselves, as long as they can get the few games out of the player that they need they don't care if the player misses games for his club. I guess to be fair the club feel the same about international games, the difference is that the club are paying the player's wages and are managing the player's fitness long term. There is a clear conflict of interest and there should be some appropriate process to manage these conflicts, I think that we all could see this coming which makes it all the more frustrating, but the club couldn't do anything about it.Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde
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I don't doubt that they don't have the same level of medical skills that we have, but isn't that all the more reason to listen to our medical staff? Under the rules we have no right to deny them a player, but I think that is also a problem, they should have a responsibility to the players welfare, their decision to ignore medical advice resulted in his injury.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostI think in this case it's fair to say the management team of Guinea isn't qualified enough to either understand or make a true judgement of when they should or shouldn't play their best player. I might be making a sweeping assessment here but I would say their setup is conference level at best. No way these small countries in developing world's have the resources we are so used such as sports science. I'm sure a few still believe in witchcraft. That's the reality and the risk of buying these players. We have no right to deny them a player. It's frustrating but we could of signed someone less risk. I'm sure Naby will be fine.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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In matters like this there should be an independent medical panel to step in. Clubs are looking after their own long term assets & the countries just want the players to play, problem has been going on for a long time now. I think sometimes the players feel obligated to play. I'm i'm ok to play kinda thing, nationalistic pride takes over, playing for their country is a great honour etc when really and truly they are still in the danger zone with the recovery.Last edited by danperkins; 30-06-19, 08:45 AM.
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