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  • Corndog
    Dalglish
    • Aug 2011
    • 2855

    #2851
    Originally posted by SB
    Imo for their first goal he’s in a hiding to nothing when the guy goes around him on the touch line. Touch him & he goes to ground & most likely a penalty is given. We still had enough players in the box to get a block in. It happens but because it’s Nabby ppl are saying we should sell him. Next week it’ll be who? Mane? Oh no that was two weeks ago
    That goal was absolutely down to his terrible defending.

    I don't think it is knee jerk to say that he's unfortunately just not good enough to be a consistent starter at Liverpool when you consider his whole time at the club to date.

    When I think of some of the other stuff that has been said by fans about players past and present, I think he actually gets off relatively easy.

    Maybe because of the price tag or his ability to go on mazey dribbling runs.
    Y.N.W.A!!!!!!

    "There are two great teams on Merseyside; Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves." - Bill Shankly

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    • Pablo
      Anti-Antipodeanite
      • May 2007
      • 25808

      #2852
      Disagree. That goal was in part his fault, but definitely not just on him. We had multiple chances of preventing it.

      He offers a genuine goal threat from midfield. We lack that so that's important.

      He's very good at pressing high up the pitch. He wins us back a lot of possession.

      He's a good passer and capable of some great through balls. He does a lot of good one touch stuff too.

      I think he's become a bit of an escaped goat, and is a slightly misunderstood player IMO.

      Fitness record aside, I think he's going to be a big player for us this season.

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      • RedReet
        Fantasy Football Champion
        • Dec 2006
        • 25265

        #2853
        Originally posted by Corndog
        That goal was absolutely down to his terrible defending.

        I don't think it is knee jerk to say that he's unfortunately just not good enough to be a consistent starter at Liverpool when you consider his whole time at the club to date.

        When I think of some of the other stuff that has been said by fans about players past and present, I think he actually gets off relatively easy.

        Maybe because of the price tag or his ability to go on mazey dribbling runs.
        Gets off lightly? He gets abuse every game, regardless of how he plays. We have a 100% win rate with him in the team this year, so he clearly is good enough.
        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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        • rudedog
          Pig hater
          • Feb 2007
          • 9912

          #2854
          Originally posted by Corndog
          That goal was absolutely down to his terrible defending.

          I don't think it is knee jerk to say that he's unfortunately just not good enough to be a consistent starter at Liverpool when you consider his whole time at the club to date.

          When I think of some of the other stuff that has been said by fans about players past and present, I think he actually gets off relatively easy.

          Maybe because of the price tag or his ability to go on mazey dribbling runs.
          There was loads of issues with the goal, Naby got done but why did Griezman have so much time and space to get the shot off?

          Also, the goal shouldn’t have even stood, Pepe was offside and stopped Mapit from clearing off the line.
          Last edited by rudedog; 20-10-21, 09:47 AM.

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          • fabinho
            Fagan
            • Jun 2018
            • 1557

            #2855
            Nobody from any rival club seems to rate Naby, Didi Hamman doesn't think he's good enough for us, but then on the other hand Klopp obviously does.

            I don't think he's done anywhere near enough to justify his cost, he really doesn't impose himself on the game and if this was his first 6 months at the club, I wouldn't be worried, but its not.

            He'll no doubt be pushing for a massive pay rise on a new contract soon too, when in reality I doubt there's another club out there that would be prepared to match what we pay him, unless he goes on a free.
            Last edited by fabinho; 20-10-21, 10:15 AM.
            Glass half empty club

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            • Irishnev
              Paisley
              • Aug 2006
              • 18295

              #2856
              Originally posted by fabinho
              Nobody from any rival club seems to rate Naby, Didi Hamman doesn't think he's good enough for us, but then on the other hand Klopp obviously does.

              I don't think he's done anywhere near enough to justify his cost, he really doesn't impose himself on the game and if this was his first 6 months at the club, I wouldn't be worried, but its not.

              He'll no doubt be pushing for a massive pay rise on a new contract soon too, when in reality I doubt there's another club out there that would be prepared to match what we pay him, unless he goes on a free.
              Hamann is a prick and I hate when he covers Liverpool for RTE - saying he expected us to win comfortably pre game. AM unbeaten at home in Europe for like 40 games

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              • Doc_Piptorious
                • Jul 2006
                • 40262

                #2857
                Originally posted by Irishnev
                Hamann is a prick and I hate when he covers Liverpool for RTE - saying he expected us to win comfortably pre game. AM unbeaten at home in Europe for like 40 games




                Double whammy last night. Hamann talking his **** before and after the game and Ronnie Whelan being full of misery during the game and constantly getting players/rules/past events etc totally wrong as part of his "commentary"
                I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


                Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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                • Buzzo
                  Donald Buzzworth
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 67435

                  #2858
                  Originally posted by Irishnev
                  Hamann is a prick and I hate when he covers Liverpool for RTE - saying he expected us to win comfortably pre game. AM unbeaten at home in Europe for like 40 games
                  Also not conceded more than 2 for 60 plus games.

                  Was definitely a tough assignment, we were never going to go there and dictate for 90 mins.
                  Modifying post.

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                  • Buzzo
                    Donald Buzzworth
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 67435

                    #2859
                    Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious



                    Double whammy last night. Hamann talking his **** before and after the game and Ronnie Whelan being full of misery during the game and constantly getting players/rules/past events etc totally wrong as part of his "commentary"
                    Do they both post on here..?
                    Modifying post.

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                    • Fredo
                      Not to be taken seriously
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 35173

                      #2860
                      Naby Keita

                      Haven’t been on here for a while and still some of the same ****. Naby was fine last night, scored a great goal and was generally good. For their goal It was great play and no great fault of his own. Our defensive organisation was in tatters at time first half after coasting to a 2 nil lead.
                      Last edited by Fredo; 20-10-21, 12:01 PM.
                      Are we winning?

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                      • SB
                        3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 36148

                        #2861
                        Originally posted by labourRed
                        He went around him outside the box.

                        It was a good set piece from AM, Robbo bought the decoy, but it shouldn't have been 2v2 from a short corner.
                        Yeah the first time of watching it I thought he was either in the box or just outside but on watching the replay I realised he was outside it
                        Me, I

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                        • SB
                          3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 36148

                          #2862
                          Originally posted by Corndog
                          That goal was absolutely down to his terrible defending.

                          I don't think it is knee jerk to say that he's unfortunately just not good enough to be a consistent starter at Liverpool when you consider his whole time at the club to date.

                          When I think of some of the other stuff that has been said by fans about players past and present, I think he actually gets off relatively easy.

                          Maybe because of the price tag or his ability to go on mazey dribbling runs.
                          No way can you pin blame solely on him for that goal. No way brother
                          Me, I

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                          • SB
                            3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 36148

                            #2863
                            Originally posted by Pablo
                            Disagree. That goal was in part his fault, but definitely not just on him. We had multiple chances of preventing it.

                            He offers a genuine goal threat from midfield. We lack that so that's important.

                            He's very good at pressing high up the pitch. He wins us back a lot of possession.

                            He's a good passer and capable of some great through balls. He does a lot of good one touch stuff too.

                            I think he's become a bit of an escaped goat, and is a slightly misunderstood player IMO.

                            Fitness record aside, I think he's going to be a big player for us this season.
                            Originally posted by RedReet
                            Gets off lightly? He gets abuse every game, regardless of how he plays. We have a 100% win rate with him in the team this year, so he clearly is good enough.
                            Originally posted by rudedog
                            There was loads of issues with the goal, Naby got done but why did Griezman have so much time and space to get the shot off?

                            Also, the goal shouldn’t have even stood, Pepe was offside and stopped Mapit from clearing off the line.
                            Originally posted by Fredo
                            Haven’t been on here for a while and still some of the same ****. Naby was fine last night, scored a great goal and was generally good. For their goal It was great plu and no great fault on his own. Our defensive organisation was in tatters at time second half after coasting to a 2 nil lead.
                            Agree with all of you guys. We just have to have a scape goat to blame even when we win
                            Me, I

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                            • Assassin
                              Kloppite
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 25908

                              #2864
                              Originally posted by RedReet
                              The irony being that when he does play well, close down spaces, recover and recycle possession, they peddle the **** that he was invisible or anonymous, presumably because he isn't rifling volleys into the top corner.

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                              • Mark79
                                Paisley
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 11006

                                #2865
                                Naby was poor. So was Milner. So was Henderson.

                                As usually, only Keita’s thread gets lit up.

                                The midfield has been poor for a number of games recently. Particularly Brentford and City.
                                And our favourite scapegoat didn’t play a minute in either of those.

                                Not a single post in the Henderson thread after his Brentford showing. Eventually some reaction after City, but much of it discussion over his role rather than the outright blame and writing off you get in here.

                                I understand the likes of Henderson and Milner get much more good will, rightly or wrongly.
                                But it’s like ducking clockwork in here and the match threads, and often it doesn’t even take an actual bad performance like last night.
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