Philippe Coutinho Post-LFC

[Le Chef]

Not sure how true but wow

https://fcbarcelonalatestnews.com/fc-barcelona-players-wages/

[sean_lfc]

It depends on how much of what we read is true. I don't doubt that Messi is consulted about all of the proposed transfers and even managerial appointments though. For me, that approach is dangerous..... footballers should play football. When he is signing a contract extension, then it is reasonable to ask about the clubs ambition, but he shouldn't be part of the decision making process.

The have 3 of the top 6 or 7 most expensive signings in football history against Bayern. Dembele and Grizzmann were on the bench - Dembele not even getting on the pitch. The other, came off the bench for the opposition, scored a few and assisted another.

They need to start again I think. And if they can get some £££ for Messi, this is possibly their last opportunity.

700m Euros in debt. 75% of turnover wages. Nuff said. With the wrath of Messi looming over important decisions for the club. It is a recipe for disaster.

Sometimes to grow, you have to kill your darlings. (that's why I deleted my Twitter account 5 minutes ago Didn't realise how much it was hindering where I want to go! No more social media for me!)

[frank the tank]

I am not questioning that strategy. A lot of times it makes sense and when it works it adds that extra layer of romance to the win.
They have now gone for Koeman mainly due to the fact that he is a Barca legend.

And to be fair, until Houllier, we did try for the boot room connection.

Also my post was arguing against Messi's influence on the choice of managers. Maybe he does but Barca have long tradition of employing managers with Catalan or Dutch connection even before Messi was there.

It depends on how much of what we read is true. I don't doubt that Messi is consulted about all of the proposed transfers and even managerial appointments though. For me, that approach is dangerous..... footballers should play football. When he is signing a contract extension, then it is reasonable to ask about the clubs ambition, but he shouldn't be part of the decision making process.

The have 3 of the top 6 or 7 most expensive signings in football history against Bayern. Dembele and Grizzmann were on the bench - Dembele not even getting on the pitch. The other, came off the bench for the opposition, scored a few and assisted another.

They need to start again I think. And if they can get some £££ for Messi, this is possibly their last opportunity.

[peekay]

You could say a little bit like an English club based in the North West during the 80's.

I am not questioning that strategy. A lot of times it makes sense and when it works it adds that extra layer of romance to the win.
They have now gone for Koeman mainly due to the fact that he is a Barca legend.

And to be fair, until Houllier, we did try for the boot room connection.

Also my post was arguing against Messi's influence on the choice of managers. Maybe he does but Barca have long tradition of employing managers with Catalan or Dutch connection even before Messi was there.

[Norbs]

OK, so you mean Kenny yeah?

[Kenneth]

Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean

And would have won nothing if they had adopted Barca's approach to hiring and firing.

[Cormack74]

Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean

Liquid breakfast?

[Bloodraven]

Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean

[Norbs]

Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean

[Bloodraven]

Pep was not a top manager when he was appointed. He was a promising B team coach. Tito Villanova never had a top managerial appointment. Luis Enrique was also not a success at his previous job before he got the Barca appointment.

You could say a little bit like an English club based in the North West during the 80's.

[peekay]

Because Messi is the dominant presence and I think since pep they have been afraid to put a top manager in there incase he upsets the tyrant.

Crazy thing is Barca look about 5 or 6 players away and they don't seem to have the slightest clue how to play Griezzer.

It is not about Messi being a tyrant. They are so desperate for a sense of identity that they rarely appoint top managers. Their managers often have some Barca/ Catalan connection or if they compromise on that they tend to appoint Dutch managers due to the Cruyff connection. The last top managers from outside they appointed was Sir Bobby Robson and Van Gaal in late 1990s.

Frank Rijkaard had just gotten Sparta Rotterdam relegated and he got the Barca job in 2003. It is just the way Barca operate. Unless you think a 15-year-old Messi playing for the B team was bring a tyrant and influencing managerial appointments.

Pep was not a top manager when he was appointed. He was a promising B team coach. Tito Villanova never had a top managerial appointment. Luis Enrique was also not a success at his previous job before he got the Barca appointment.

[Charly]

Just make Messi player manager.

[Sus]

I wonder how much better everyone will look once Messi retires / leaves? It will be a lot easier to build around a clear way of playing that isn't give the ball to Messi

[danperkins]

Why do Barca keep putting managers no ones heard of in charge? Someone knocking about at the likes of Betis isn't likely to make the step up to barca and handle all the mega star egos. If they go after the best players then why not go for the best managers?

On a secondary note, I hope that Simone never comes to England. Proper cheating Argie, a worse anti version of fair play than Mourinho. Proper cunt.

Because Messi is the dominant presence and I think since pep they have been afraid to put a top manager in there incase he upsets the tyrant.

Crazy thing is Barca look about 5 or 6 players away and they don't seem to have the slightest clue how to play Griezzer.

[BobTheCharmer]

Why do Barca keep putting managers no ones heard of in charge? Someone knocking about at the likes of Betis isn't likely to make the step up to barca and handle all the mega star egos. If they go after the best players then why not go for the best managers?

On a secondary note, I hope that Simone never comes to England. Proper cheating Argie, a worse anti version of fair play than Mourinho. Proper cunt.