Luis Díaz

[Irishnev]

Ah, forgot about the possibility of the dirty money.

And Gordon, he'll save every one of us.

I’m probably in the minority but I think Gordon would do well for us, lightening fast, Scouser and a Red plus he’d win 20 pens a season for Mo

I think he’d cost way more than what he’s worth though

[peterbread]

I’m probably in the minority but I think Gordon would do well for us, lightening fast, Scouser and a Red plus he’d win 20 pens a season for Mo

I think he’d cost way more than what he’s worth though

He’s a diving **** but he’d be our diving ****, we’ve had plenty before. Gerrard was very good at winning a penalty. He’s a very good player and is absolutely lightning. He signed a new deal recently but who knows there might be a sneaky little release clause in there. They are becoming more common.

[danperkins]

Looks like he's staying, Barca ready to complete on Nico Williams.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c74w9rnyjd4o

Strange one imo as he plays same position as Raphina, who got 34 Goals 25 Assists last season and is still only 28. Those numbers are utterly insane and seem to have gone under the radar.

[SB]

An excerpt from this article paves Diaz in a very good light. He needs a pay rise imo.

And it has now been claimed that the Blaugrana were attempting to exert pressure on Diaz in order to help facilitate the move.

Mundo Deportivo reports that Barca have been left “upset” because Diaz didn’t agitate hard enough for a transfer.

“Joan Laporta and Deco's plan was for the 28-year-old Colombian striker, who has a contract until 2027, to put heavy pressure on Liverpool three weeks ago, also through his agent,” a report reads.

“The goal was to create a favorable environment for negotiations that would lead to a transfer to Barça.

“Barça hoped that pressure from Díaz and his representative would pave the way for negotiations with Liverpool, with the aim of ultimately reducing the transfer fee to around 60 million euros.”

https://www.anfieldwatch.co.uk/liverpool-fc/news/liverpool-transfer-news-barcelona-luis-diaz-nico-williams/#google_vignette

[Tatterdemalion]

An excerpt from this article paves Diaz in a very good light. He needs a pay rise imo.



https://www.anfieldwatch.co.uk/liver...oogle_vignette

There's something really dodgy in this and other recent transfers of clubs getting players to run down contracts or agitate and it does feel like it's more of a Spanish club problem. I do realise that it has been going on for years, but it does feel like it is a lot more prevalent now as an actual transfer tactic rather than a once in a while occurrence. I suspect we've used this tactic as well but it sits very badly with me. It feels like collusion.

[Norbs]

There's something really dodgy in this and other recent transfers of clubs getting players to run down contracts or agitate and it does feel like it's more of a Spanish club problem. I do realise that it has been going on for years, but it does feel like it is a lot more prevalent now as an actual transfer tactic rather than a once in a while occurrence. I suspect we've used this tactic as well but it sits very badly with me. It feels like collusion.

Madrid openly talking about getting a player in a year needs to stop

[SB]

There's something really dodgy in this and other recent transfers of clubs getting players to run down contracts or agitate and it does feel like it's more of a Spanish club problem. I do realise that it has been going on for years, but it does feel like it is a lot more prevalent now as an actual transfer tactic rather than a once in a while occurrence. I suspect we've used this tactic as well but it sits very badly with me. It feels like collusion.

Madrid openly talking about getting a player in a year needs to stop

Agree. It stinks & something needs to change.

[Exiled_red]

There's something really dodgy in this and other recent transfers of clubs getting players to run down contracts or agitate and it does feel like it's more of a Spanish club problem. I do realise that it has been going on for years, but it does feel like it is a lot more prevalent now as an actual transfer tactic rather than a once in a while occurrence. I suspect we've used this tactic as well but it sits very badly with me. It feels like collusion.

Out of curiosity who do you think we have got using this tactic?

Not saying you are wrong and we are squeaky clean in this regard, but the free transfers we have got seem few and far between and seem more opportunistic but perhaps that is me being naive

[SB]

Yeah I can’t think of anyone either, it just doesn’t seem like something we’d do tbh.

[RedReet]

I don't think we've ever encouraged a player to run down a contract, but I'm sure we've definitely used our status as an advantage to get players at smaller clubs to try and force through moves, which isn't much better IMO.

It's why I also think it's a bit hypocritical, complaining about what Madrid are doing, despite it being very annoying.

And people saying, something needs to be done before everyone starts doing it are missing the point, everyone can't do it. It's worked spectacularly well so far for Madrid, but it's also a risky approach to take. When you buy a player, you do it on your terms and can guarantee the sale and when it happens. Approaching a player a few years in advance and planning for that player requires a lot of trust and can easily backfire. Madrid have had a free run so far and it's worked, but if other clubs start getting involved, there is nothing stopping the player changing his mind at the 11th hour. Take Konate for example, if Madrid start planning on him joining next year, they might pass on the opportunity to buy Saliba because Konate is coming, but PSG come in and offers him more wages and he renegs on his gentleman's agreement, leaving Madrid scrambling for an alternative. He could even have a change if heart after promising them he'll join and renew his contract.

Imnedietly this approach falls to pieces if other big clubs start getting involved and ultimately clubs will prefer paying fees to secure their top targets. Even for Madrid, all it takes is one key player to reject them last minute, for them to reconsider this approach.

[Exiled_red]

All clubs use their status to (for want of a better word) bully other clubs to attract their best players, I don't think that the smaller club loses out much, the player moves but they are usually able to get a good fee. Our approach and deal for VVD being in example. They lost the player but the fee they got was good compensation. For me the getting the player on a free is another level.

Yes there are risks for both play and club that one or other will have a change of heart, the Madrid approach seemingly involves getting their mates involve (e.g Bellingham with TAA and similar with mbappe). I guess this mitigates risk for the club somewhat.

[RedReet]

All clubs use their status to (for want of a better word) bully other clubs to attract their best players, I don't think that the smaller club loses out much, the player moves but they are usually able to get a good fee. Our approach and deal for VVD being in example. They lost the player but the fee they got was good compensation. For me the getting the player on a free is another level.

Yes there are risks for both play and club that one or other will have a change of heart, the Madrid approach seemingly involves getting their mates involve (e.g Bellingham with TAA and similar with mbappe). I guess this mitigates risk for the club somewhat.

Hmmmm, not sure I agree the smaller clubs see it that way. Maybe a better example would be with youth players, how we signed Elliot for example. While the sums of money are obviously massively different, the approach from the 'buying' club not so much.

[Exiled_red]

Hmmmm, not sure I agree the smaller clubs see it that way. Maybe a better example would be with youth players, how we signed Elliot for example. While the sums of money are obviously massively different, the approach from the 'buying' club not so much.

Yeah the youth system is something of a mess I agree with that, but with senior players the only way we get anyone on the cheap is usually because of buyout clauses. The smaller clubs don't want to lose their best players and players may force moves but usually clubs get a fair price

[Tatterdemalion]

Out of curiosity who do you think we have got using this tactic?

Not saying you are wrong and we are squeaky clean in this regard, but the free transfers we have got seem few and far between and seem more opportunistic but perhaps that is me being naive

Wasn't thinking of anyone in particular, more observing that we probably aren't whiter than white in terms of underhand transfer tactics. Perhaps we are, but I suspect not.

[DerKrampus]

Perhaps a weighted system of a nominal fee that goes to a club - so the bigger the club taking advantage, the more they have to pay for an out of contract player.

So if a powerhouse like Real Madrid take Trent, they pay for example a fee of £5m, but it Wrexham did it, they'd pay £500,000.