Chris Benoit dead

[Morph]

What difference would it make?
I couldnt care less if it comes back and states the **** was drugged up out of his brains...still doesnt make him any less of a murderer does it?

People make mistakes......but murdering your family is a pretty damned big one eh?!
I cant imagine that any sane person would sympathise with benoit in this case.

What if someone drugged him, obviously it's highly unlikely, but fans of his would be looking for any other possible explanation

[Fiddy]

I think a lot of people need setting straight on here. 'Roid rage' is grossly exaggerated, and would only generally be suffered by plebs who don't have a clue what they're doing. Or, what possibly happened in this case, the effects of decades of steroid use...my mate is an ex-pro bodybuilder and is on **** most of the time, but if you cycle and stack them right the main effects are you get a ****load bigger, you're horny as ****. Plus possible sides on his balls which I wouldn't wish to comment on, but his bird doesn't seem too unhappy, and damage to internal organs which is the main downer.

However, just because he's on gear doesn't mean he has mood swings/'roid rage attacks' all the time...so I think the people just blaming it on that are missing the point a bit. Benoit always seemed a bit weird to me, and IMO his probable steroid abuse has just exacerbated that weirdness to the extent he does something like that

So I'd say they're more just a contributing factor, which along with him being odd to start with and the pressures of his job, made him crack.

[Revo]

THE VERY LATEST, VERY SAD INDEED


Wrestler and Wife Argued Over Child Care
By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer
2 hours ago


In this March 29, 2004 file photo, provided by ...
ATLANTA - In the days before pro wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and child and hanged himself, the couple argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally retarded 7-year-old son, an attorney for the wrestling league said Wednesday.

"I think it's fair to say that the subject of caring for that child was part of what made their relationship complicated and difficult, and it's something they were both constantly struggling with," said Jerry McDevitt, an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment. "We do know it was a source of stress and consternation."

McDevitt said the wrestling organization learned from the couple's friends and relatives that the Benoits were struggling with where to send the boy to school since he had recently finished kindergarten.

He also said Benoit's wife didn't want him to quit wrestling, but she "wanted him to be at home more to care for the kid. She'd say she can't take care of him by herself when he was on the road."

The child suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism, McDevitt said.

Over the past weekend, authorities said, Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine cable in the couple's suburban home. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.

Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the slayings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a news release Tuesday saying steroids "were not and could not be related to the cause of death" and that the findings indicate "deliberation, not rage." It also added that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.

Also Wednesday, Benoit's personal physician said the wrestler did not give any indication he was troubled when he met with the doctor hours before the start of the weekend.

Benoit had been under the care of Dr. Phil Astin, a longtime friend, for treatment of low testosterone levels. Astin said the condition likely originated from previous steroid use.

Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed the day of their meeting.

"He was in my office on Friday to stop by just to see my staff," Astin said. "He certainly didn't show any signs of any distress or rage or anything."

"I'm still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved," Astin said. "He worshipped his child."

District Attorney Scott Ballard said the autopsy indicated that there were no bruise marks on the child's neck, so authorities are now assuming he could have been killed using a choke hold. "It's a process of elimination," he said.

The Benoits' argument over their son was not the only friction in their marriage. Nancy Benoit had filed for a divorce in 2003, saying the couple's three-year marriage was irrevocably broken and alleging "cruel treatment." She later dropped the complaint.

Meanwhile, authorities in Georgia were investigating a link between Benoit and a Florida business that may have supplied him with steroids.

Prosecutors in upstate New York who have been investigating the company's drug sales said Benoit received deliveries from Signature Pharmacy and MedXLife.com, which sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet.

Six people, including two of the pharmacy's owners, have pleaded guilty in the investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists.

"That's something that sounds like we ought to be investigating," Ballard told the AP on Wednesday.

A lawyer for MedXLife co-owner Dr. Gary Brandwein scoffed at allegations that his client's company sold steroids to Benoit.

"I've only read that in the paper. I have no direct information about that whatsoever," Terence Kindlon said Wednesday, adding that prosecutors in Albany County, N.Y., were trying to "distract everyone's attention from the fact that their case is disintegrating."

Brandwein, a 44-year-old osteopath from Boca Raton, Fla., has pleaded not guilty to six counts in New York state court related to the criminal sale of a controlled substance. He was accused of signing and sending prescriptions without ever seeing patients.

Telephone messages left for attorneys for Brian Schafler and Greg Trotta _ two other co-owners of MedXLife _ were not immediately returned Wednesday. The two men have pleaded guilty to felony third-degree diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions, admitting they helped get drugs in 2006 for customers in upstate New York who had no medical need for them.

McDevitt said the drugs found in Benoit's house were legitimately prescribed. "There's no question, none of these drugs are out there, none of these drugs came from Internet pharmacies," he said.

In addition to causing paranoia and explosive outbursts, steroids can also contribute to deep depression, according to experts.

"Just as you have the extreme high of when you're on steroids, you can get the opposite," said Dr. Todd Schlifstein, a clinical assistant professor at the New York University School of Medicine. "You can have a dramatic difference in mood swings. You can feel there's no hope,

[Nicey]

Its a sad sad story indeed. I thought although the way the WWE or whatever its called these days made a spectacle of his death and honoured him like some sort of hero was a inappropriate considering he just strangled a woman to death and killed a child

[SouthAfricaRed]

Ok that's your opinion but my opnion is that anyone who kills his wife and child is a bad person by definition.

You should despise the deed not the person.

[SouthAfricaRed]

I think a lot of people need setting straight on here. 'Roid rage' is grossly exaggerated, and would only generally be suffered by plebs who don't have a clue what they're doing. Or, what possibly happened in this case, the effects of decades of steroid use...my mate is an ex-pro bodybuilder and is on **** most of the time, but if you cycle and stack them right the main effects are you get a ****load bigger, you're horny as ****. Plus possible sides on his balls which I wouldn't wish to comment on, but his bird doesn't seem too unhappy, and damage to internal organs which is the main downer.

However, just because he's on gear doesn't mean he has mood swings/'roid rage attacks' all the time...so I think the people just blaming it on that are missing the point a bit. Benoit always seemed a bit weird to me, and IMO his probable steroid abuse has just exacerbated that weirdness to the extent he does something like that

So I'd say they're more just a contributing factor, which along with him being odd to start with and the pressures of his job, made him crack.

This is the Fantasy most Steroid users like to believe. Your mate does realise that his risk of getting certain cancers and cardiovascular disease is off the scale

As far as aggression and mood swings are concerned, it's very difficult to evaluate as one would have to evaluate a person before taking it and then again after being on it for a while.

Predisposition to problems is obviously critical, but then any person who uses it knowing that it is destroying his health at the cost of looking 'good' cant be completely normal to start off with They obviously have personality disorders

[Nicey]

I think a lot of people need setting straight on here. 'Roid rage' is grossly exaggerated, and would only generally be suffered by plebs who don't have a clue what they're doing. Or, what possibly happened in this case, the effects of decades of steroid use...my mate is an ex-pro bodybuilder and is on **** most of the time, but if you cycle and stack them right the main effects are you get a ****load bigger, you're horny as ****. Plus possible sides on his balls which I wouldn't wish to comment on, but his bird doesn't seem too unhappy, and damage to internal organs which is the main downer.

However, just because he's on gear doesn't mean he has mood swings/'roid rage attacks' all the time...so I think the people just blaming it on that are missing the point a bit. Benoit always seemed a bit weird to me, and IMO his probable steroid abuse has just exacerbated that weirdness to the extent he does something like that

So I'd say they're more just a contributing factor, which along with him being odd to start with and the pressures of his job, made him crack.

Well mate I can tell you nearly all the people I have seen on steroids are off the ****ing wall, mad mood swings and there emotions are all over the place. I have seen it with my own eyes, its real.

[Chiccada]

Its a sad sad story indeed. I thought although the way the WWE or whatever its called these days made a spectacle of his death and honoured him like some sort of hero was a inappropriate considering he just strangled a woman to death and killed a child

They did the show prior to knowing the full facts.

Vince went on ECW the day after saying as much. Then said its the last they will do in regards to Beniot. All his merch has been removed from the site and the only things left are the pieces of info regarding txt messages recieved by WWE staff from Benoit and a statement refuting the roid rage allegations.

[Dhav]

Let it be noted we don't know anything about substance missuse, and wont know anything about the toxicology report for about 2-3 weeks probably

Hmm. They never used to take that long in Quincy. Sam used to be able to knock them out in an afternoon. Have things regressed that much in forensic medicine since they days of Quincy?

And Mynsey what is all this "Benoit-sako" business?

[Warren]

I read somewhere that Benoit has now been named as part of an ongoing investigation by Fox news ( I think) into illegal steroid sales.

And that his son was being given growth hormones which were found to have been supplied by the pharmacy at the centre of the investigation.

[PTP]

Hmm. They never used to take that long in Quincy. Sam used to be able to knock them out in an afternoon. Have things regressed that much in forensic medicine since they days of Quincy?

And Mynsey what is all this "Benoit-sako" business?

i was thinking the same thing

[PTP]

I read somewhere that Benoit has now been named as part of an ongoing investigation by Fox news ( I think) into illegal steroid sales.

And that his son was being given growth hormones which were found to have been supplied by the pharmacy at the centre of the investigation.

****ing crazy **** - certainly a lot more investigating needed, obv something ****ed has been happening behind the scenes

[Nicey]

They did the show prior to knowing the full facts.

Vince went on ECW the day after saying as much. Then said its the last they will do in regards to Beniot. All his merch has been removed from the site and the only things left are the pieces of info regarding txt messages recieved by WWE staff from Benoit and a statement refuting the roid rage allegations.

Fair enough then, still a little more prudence you think should have been in order they seemed a little trigger happy to do that show, they thrive on Drama, a tad bit in bad taste if you ask me. Still good of him to come out and say as much

[Pacman]

Its a sad sad story indeed. I thought although the way the WWE or whatever its called these days made a spectacle of his death and honoured him like some sort of hero was a inappropriate considering he just strangled a woman to death and killed a child

This is getting a bit of a habbit but for the 2nd time today I agree with you

[Chiccada]

Fair enough then, still a little more prudence you think should have been in order they seemed a little trigger happy to do that show, they thrive on Drama, a tad bit in bad taste if you ask me. Still good of him to come out and say as much

I suppose in hindsight yeah i guess so, but when the only thing you know is him and his family is dead about 2 hours before you go live, theres not alot you can do but pay tribute and cancel the live show as a mark of respect.

Im still stunned that the guy was capable of this.