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    I can't seem to get the audio feed. Do you need to register or something?

    All I keep getting are Vodafone and Norwich Union ads.
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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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      And Pimm's in a fish shop.

      Anyway, 2 hours of no commentary was difficult but it's still great to see. Live coverage now starting on Eurosport.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        Did anyone see Borat?
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          Originally posted by livvy145 View Post
          Did anyone see Borat?
          Yes.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            Looks like some of us misjudged Vinokourov's honesty.

            Good ride by Rasmussen - it strengthens Rabobank having him and Menchov as real contenders for the overall. Mayo rode well as did Moreau, Valverde and Contador.

            Still to early to tell who'll win but Rogers isn't going to win it. 3 T-Mobile riders out today.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
              Looks like some of us misjudged Vinokourov's honesty.

              Good ride by Rasmussen - it strengthens Rabobank having him and Menchov as real contenders for the overall. Mayo rode well as did Moreau, Valverde and Contador.

              Still to early to tell who'll win but Rogers isn't going to win it. 3 T-Mobile riders out today.
              Vinokourov will surprise as he's still recuperating from his fall, IMO. Kloden is very very strong and expect big things from him if they elevate him as the leader.

              As for Rasmussen, he won't win the Tour as he's not good enough in the time trials. It has to be between Moreau, Mayo, Kloden, Valverde, Vinokourov and some outsiders.

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                I think you're right but, although better than Rasmussen, Valverde and Mayo aren't notable time-triallists either.

                I agree, Kloden and Vinokourov aren't out of it yet. I'd say anyone in the top 13 could win it + Vino. Either of Pereiro and Zubeldia could podium too.

                1 058 Michael RASMUSSEN DEN RAB 39h37'42.000'' 00.000''
                2 025 Linus GERDEMANN GER TMO 39h38'25.000'' 43.000''
                3 207 Iban MAYO ESP SDV 39h40'21.000'' 2'39.000''
                4 018 Alejandro VALVERDE ESP GCE 39h40'33.000'' 2'51.000''
                5 195 Andrey KASHECHKIN KAZ AST 39h40'34.000'' 2'52.000''
                6 041 Cadel EVANS AUS PRL 39h40'35.000'' 2'53.000''
                7 061 Christophe MOREAU FRA A2R 39h40'48.000'' 3'06.000''
                8 112 Alberto CONTADOR ESP DSC 39h40'52.000'' 3'10.000''
                9 036 Frank SCHLECK LUX CSC 39h40'56.000'' 3'14.000''
                10 051 Denis MENCHOV RUS RAB 39h41'01.000'' 3'19.000''
                11 031 Carlos SASTRE ESP CSC 39h41'17.000'' 3'35.000''
                12 196 Andréas KLÖDEN GER AST 39h41'28.000'' 3'46.000''
                13 111 Levi LEIPHEIMER USA DSC 39h41'35.000'' 3'53.000''
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  I noticed earlier that "Hors Categorie" does still exist - two HC climbs on Tuesday.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    Kloden was fantastic today and he had to wait for Vino. This is the most open Tour for years. Valverde & Kloden are the favorites for me and as I said, I expect Vinokourov to improve in the next stages.

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                      I think Astana think the same, otherwise there's no way they should have held him back to help his leader.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        I noticed earlier that "Hors Categorie" does still exist - two HC climbs on Tuesday.
                        Yep and I think there are more HC climbs around the end of the week. Tuesday's final won't be on top of a climb unfortunately and by the time I get home the suspense will have gone.

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                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          I think Astana think the same, otherwise there's no way they should have held him back to help his leader.
                          That's what I was thinking. It's tough on Kloden anyway, as I think he has the potential to win it but he's been playing second fiddle to Ullrich and now Vinokourov.

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                            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                            I think you're right but, although better than Rasmussen, Valverde and Mayo aren't notable time-triallists either.

                            I agree, Kloden and Vinokourov aren't out of it yet. I'd say anyone in the top 13 could win it + Vino. Either of Pereiro and Zubeldia could podium too.

                            1 058 Michael RASMUSSEN DEN RAB 39h37'42.000'' 00.000''
                            2 025 Linus GERDEMANN GER TMO 39h38'25.000'' 43.000''
                            3 207 Iban MAYO ESP SDV 39h40'21.000'' 2'39.000''
                            4 018 Alejandro VALVERDE ESP GCE 39h40'33.000'' 2'51.000''
                            5 195 Andrey KASHECHKIN KAZ AST 39h40'34.000'' 2'52.000''
                            6 041 Cadel EVANS AUS PRL 39h40'35.000'' 2'53.000''
                            7 061 Christophe MOREAU FRA A2R 39h40'48.000'' 3'06.000''
                            8 112 Alberto CONTADOR ESP DSC 39h40'52.000'' 3'10.000''
                            9 036 Frank SCHLECK LUX CSC 39h40'56.000'' 3'14.000''
                            10 051 Denis MENCHOV RUS RAB 39h41'01.000'' 3'19.000''
                            11 031 Carlos SASTRE ESP CSC 39h41'17.000'' 3'35.000''
                            12 196 Andréas KLÖDEN GER AST 39h41'28.000'' 3'46.000''
                            13 111 Levi LEIPHEIMER USA DSC 39h41'35.000'' 3'53.000''
                            What happened to Cancellara?

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                              Originally posted by Helios Creed View Post
                              What happened to Cancellara?
                              He lost a ton of time yesterday and more today. He's not a climber, he's too big.

                              He worked on the front yesterday - he knew from the beginning his "dream week in yellow" was over.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                                Originally posted by fredo View Post
                                That's what I was thinking. It's tough on Kloden anyway, as I think he has the potential to win it but he's been playing second fiddle to Ullrich and now Vinokourov.
                                Yes, although if he had stayed at T-Mobile he'd have been team leader. Maybe he doesn't want to be number one.
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                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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