Originally posted by carlton
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Exactly. Australia had a strong bowling line up throughout his time, so for Warne to take those wickets with the quality in his team makes it more of an incredible achievement."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley -
Yep, Gillespie took well over 200 wickets in the same era too. Was a very good bowler until Vaughan destoyed him in the 05 series. I used to love watching Warnie and McGrath bowl in tandem. There was no respite.Originally posted by looprevil View Post"I watched the Champions League quarter-finals and the way they crushed Arsenal. Only the greatest and the best can play such a match.
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Originally posted by ningnangnong View Post
If you take Murali's achievements against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe out of the equation, his record is STILL better than Warne's.
Warne is a genuine all-time great but Murali's record is markedly better. Stats don't lie - although the Aussies may not like it - Murali is the greatest.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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He is the greatest wicket taker, but is he the greatest test bowler?Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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That’s probably about right.Originally posted by looprevil View Post
If I needed someone to take a wicket to save my life, I’d choose Murali – but if someone asks me who the greatest bowler ever is, I’d be naturally inclined to reply Warne.
Warne was a better bat and had a better cricketing brain too.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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I think if you put stats aside ( due to complaints about his action, playing on prepared pitches in the sub-continent, etc), and think about who did the most for the game, stood out in their time, who people recognise, etc, it has to be Warne. He changed the way spin bowling was perceived. He broke teams hearts, and not crap teams either , and not just on his home turf. No doubts who people will remember in years to come.
Think about it - Gary Lineker was a more prolific goalscorer than Kenny Dalglish, but who was the better player?"Every time i sit around i find i'm shot."
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My Aussie mate made a great point, echoing what carlton said in this thread.
It wasn’t easy for Warne to take, say, seven wickets, when you consider McGrath et al had usually ripped through the opposition before Warne even got a bowl. To take that many wickets in a side full of great bowlers was a hell of an achievement.
Still…it’s funny to see Aussies flapping about with excuses and saying “**** the record books” when they clearly show Murali to be superior.
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Where do some of the older bowlers come in to this equation, players like Curtley Ambrose, Fred Trueman, Kapil Dev?
It could be argued that these guys played when cricket was more popular and there was less whipping boys to get your averages up?We come not to play.Comment
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Well it's certainly true that they play tons more cricket today than they used to.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Stats would say yes, and just because he hasnt had a very colourful career off the field like Warne doesnt mean he's less of a cricketer.
Both are class acts but i love to watch Warne bowl moreWhen you feel like you're done, you are not alone........Comment
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It's simple really; would Murali be asked to become a Captain on a Question Of Sport?
....thought not. Case closed.James Philip Milner Fanclub #1
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Of course Murali is better. Cricinfo had a piece yesterday where it compared the averages and strike rates excluding Zimbabwe and Bangladesh which bitter Aussies always moan about. Murali's stats were better against all nations other than Pakistan.
People say that Murali's wickets came against inferior opposition - but Warne took most of his against England. And as we all sadly know few English players can play spin...
Add the fact that Warne always had better team mates bowling the other end building pressure, it made it easier for him to take wickets. That flip side of that is Murali takes most of SL wickets. Again you could argue that Warne never had to bowl agianst the best team of all, Australia, so his stats are enhanced by this.
Steve Waugh/Alec Stewart/Donald Bradman all say Murali's action is fine. Only bitter Aussies with nothing better to do tend to disgaree...Comment
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"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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