Australia Vs. India Test Series Thread

[Skillz]

Normally I avoid them like disco avoids black people, but for some reason this has really got my back up. I wouldn't mind, I'm Irish. I'm not even supposed to like the bloody sport. It just seems that everyone is focused on the "unsportsmanlike behaviour" of Australia, instead of the fact that there is a possibility that someone was racially abused. They also seem to think that no other team would act the way the Aussies do on the field and to me that's hypocritical.

Absolutely spot on. Echoes my thoughts

[Skillz]

Bottom line IMO is that the allegation against Singh should be proven, not just by the Aussie players because their integrity is in question given their own conduct in the last test.

Otherwise they should shut the **** up and get on with the next game, get 2 NEUTRAL ****in umpires in and play some ****in cricket.

Don't know where to start here

1) Why is Australia's integrity in question?
2) Why should the Aussie's have to prove it? Surely all they can do is report it as they have been instructed to do.
3) The umpires are neutral. Getting competant umpires should be the priority and Bucknor hasn't competant for 3 years.

[Skillz]

This is a crazy thread.

Firstly, Harbajhan should never have been found guilty of something that cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt. It was one man’s word against another, and they’ve inexplicably sided with one of them.

However, I have no reason to disbelieve Symonds that a racist remark was aimed at him. People coming out with this crap like “the Aussies can dish it out but they don’t like it back” baffle me – racist abuse is NOT sledging.

Regarding the Aussies, I do believe they’ve taken this “competitiveness” too far. Batsmen shouldn’t walk in my opinion, but claiming catches that have clearly grounded is ****ing cheating.

In short, neither side has covered themselves in glory in this latest debacle.

Good post, Shaggy. My only complaint is bolded because I am not sure where you get this idea from.

WTF is all this about.

MartinOz you sound like a tool of the highest order. No one actually heard Harbhajan say monkey. There is no proof. So he has been labelled a racist on the word of Ponting. Now lets see. Ponting...isn't he Harbajhan's b*tch in a cricketing sense...always get's out to him right?!

Maybe Ponting thought, I want to get some runs so I'll make up this thing about Harbhajan saying monkey. And what the **** has it got to do with Symonds if Bhaji was having a bit of banter with Lee. Symonds had to act all big brother and get involved

Fact is Ponting is a cheat, Clarke is an even bigger cheat, and Symonds is a cock and a cheat. Make up stuff about racist comments then you call India sore losers. Maybe you lot should be gracious in victory....I mean you did cheat your way to the record!

Judge, jury and executioner are you. Where's your evidence.:whatever:

[MARTINOZ]

WTF is all this about.

MartinOz you sound like a tool of the highest order. No one actually heard Harbhajan say monkey. There is no proof. So he has been labelled a racist on the word of Ponting. Now lets see. Ponting...isn't he Harbajhan's b*tch in a cricketing sense...always get's out to him right?!

Maybe Ponting thought, I want to get some runs so I'll make up this thing about Harbhajan saying monkey. And what the **** has it got to do with Symonds if Bhaji was having a bit of banter with Lee. Symonds had to act all big brother and get involved

Fact is Ponting is a cheat, Clarke is an even bigger cheat, and Symonds is a cock and a cheat. Make up stuff about racist comments then you call India sore losers. Maybe you lot should be gracious in victory....I mean you did cheat your way to the record!

Pots and kettles, pots and kettles.


You really believe that someone would make up something like that to score more runs in upcoming matches? If you do, you have a bleak view of the world. Has Singh even denied making the comments?

[carlton]

WTF is all this about.

MartinOz you sound like a tool of the highest order. No one actually heard Harbhajan say monkey. There is no proof. So he has been labelled a racist on the word of Ponting. Now lets see. Ponting...isn't he Harbajhan's b*tch in a cricketing sense...always get's out to him right?!

Maybe Ponting thought, I want to get some runs so I'll make up this thing about Harbhajan saying monkey. And what the **** has it got to do with Symonds if Bhaji was having a bit of banter with Lee. Symonds had to act all big brother and get involved

Fact is Ponting is a cheat, Clarke is an even bigger cheat, and Symonds is a cock and a cheat. Make up stuff about racist comments then you call India sore losers. Maybe you lot should be gracious in victory....I mean you did cheat your way to the record!

You call Martin a tool of the highest order then go on to post the biggest load of ****e I ve ever read on this or any other site. Are you insane? Ponting dobbed on Harbi to get him suspended so he wont have to face him for the res of the series. Yep theyre all cheats without any ability. How old are you? 12?.

[Sarb]

No one has actually heard him use the word that he is alleged to have said. Not picked up by the umpires, nor the stump mic. Saw the pictures and the confrontation that Symonds and Harbi had. If someone had called me a racist name I'd be going mental. Wasn't a reaction from Symonds (Just mouthed off as per usual)

Fact is he was branded a racist without evidence...regardless of what anyone on here says...that's wrong

[Skillz]

No one has actually heard him use the word that he is alleged to have said. Not picked up by the umpires, nor the stump mic. Saw the pictures and the confrontation that Symonds and Harbi had. If someone had called me a racist name I'd be going mental. Wasn't a reaction from Symonds (Just mouthed off as per usual)

Fact is he was branded a racist without evidence...regardless of what anyone on here says...that's wrong

For starters, no one is calling him a racist. He was reported for making racist remark, which for me is vastly different.

Symmonds, Clarke and Hayden all heard the comment and were called to the tribunal for evidence.

I suggest you read the post I put on here yesterday written by Ponting where he goes through what happened in great detail. I know you will say it is biased but he does put his story across in plain detail.

[Jayesh87]

Pots and kettles, pots and kettles.


You really believe that someone would make up something like that to score more runs in upcoming matches? If you do, you have a bleak view of the world. Has Singh even denied making the comments?

Corse he fooking has, as soon as the story came out he denied it and Sachin backed him up in a press conference. The fact that the Indian board are willing to back Bhaji and walk away from the series unless he is cleared shows me that they believe he is innocent. The fact the match umpire gave Bhaji a 3 game ban is a joke, if they has any real evidence they would would have given him a massive fine and a 8 game ban minimum.

Aussies are horrible, cheating scum (like the mancs) Just looking for a bite

[disco]

For starters, no one is calling him a racist. He was reported for making racist remark, which for me is vastly different.

Symmonds, Clarke and Hayden all heard the comment and were called to the tribunal for evidence.

I suggest you read the post I put on here yesterday written by Ponting where he goes through what happened in great detail. I know you will say it is biased but he does put his story across in plain detail.

(Racist outside of Indian's culture)

Subtle difference, but you've hit the nail on the head for me. For me racism requires hatred towards Symonds and even some sort of feeling of superiority.

We have to have heard it to be able to judge this.

[disco]

Corse he fooking has, as soon as the story came out he denied it and Sachin backed him up in a press conference. The fact that the Indian board are willing to back Bhaji and walk away from the series unless he is cleared shows me that they believe he is innocent. The fact the match umpire gave Bhaji a 3 game ban is a joke, if they has any real evidence they would would have given him a massive fine and a 8 game ban minimum.

Aussies are horrible, cheating scum (like the mancs) Just looking for a bite

Has he denied saying it, or denied saying it to Symonds?

[Red Chilli]

No one has actually heard him use the word that he is alleged to have said. Not picked up by the umpires, nor the stump mic. Saw the pictures and the confrontation that Symonds and Harbi had. If someone had called me a racist name I'd be going mental. Wasn't a reaction from Symonds (Just mouthed off as per usual)

Fact is he was branded a racist without evidence...regardless of what anyone on here says...that's wrong

For starters, no one is calling him a racist. He was reported for making racist remark, which for me is vastly different.

Symmonds, Clarke and Hayden all heard the comment and were called to the tribunal for evidence.

I suggest you read the post I put on here yesterday written by Ponting where he goes through what happened in great detail. I know you will say it is biased but he does put his story across in plain detail.

The match referee wouldn't give him a ban if no-one had heard it.

[Jayesh87]

Has he denied saying it, or denied saying it to Symonds?

dunno, not seen his quotes but while watching the game they were discussing the row and they were talking about how he came out and strongly denied it and how Sachin backed him up in a press conference.

[Harv]

Corse he fooking has, as soon as the story came out he denied it and Sachin backed him up in a press conference. The fact that the Indian board are willing to back Bhaji and walk away from the series unless he is cleared shows me that they believe he is innocent. The fact the match umpire gave Bhaji a 3 game ban is a joke, if they has any real evidence they would would have given him a massive fine and a 8 game ban minimum.

Aussies are horrible, cheating scum (like the mancs) Just looking for a bite

nibble nibble nibble

[Sarb]

For starters, no one is calling him a racist. He was reported for making racist remark, which for me is vastly different.

Symmonds, Clarke and Hayden all heard the comment and were called to the tribunal for evidence.

I suggest you read the post I put on here yesterday written by Ponting where he goes through what happened in great detail. I know you will say it is biased but he does put his story across in plain detail.

For those three people that heard it there is Sachin, the two umpires, the stump mic who never heard it. When you brand someone a racist on the basis of what three people allegedly heard but the majority of the others didn't then there is something wrong

As a side note, I remember when Panesar was touring with England in Australia and was subjected to racist abuse. There were people from Aussie Cricket saying it's no big deal and it's just the Aussie way.

Symonds is a numpty anyway...sticking up for Brett Lee after a bit of banter between Bhaji and Lee. He needs to chill out

Clarke giving evidence...the guy that claims grassed catches against India and Australia and stands in his crease like an idiot after thick edging one to Dravid. I know who I'd believe out of Sachin, Clarke, Symonds and Hayden...and it's not because I'm Indian either

[disco]

For those three people that heard it there is Sachin, the two umpires, the stump mic who never heard it. When you brand someone a racist on the basis of what three people allegedly heard but the majority of the others didn't then there is something wrong

As a side note, I remember when Panesar was touring with England in Australia and was subjected to racist abuse. There were people from Aussie Cricket saying it's no big deal and it's just the Aussie way.

Symonds is a numpty anyway...sticking up for Brett Lee after a bit of banter between Bhaji and Lee. He needs to chill out

Clarke giving evidence...the guy that claims grassed catches against India and Australia and stands in his crease like an idiot after thick edging one to Dravid. I know who I'd believe out of Sachin, Clarke, Symonds and Hayden...and it's not because I'm Indian either

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausveng/content/story/267740.html

Brilliant article

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jan2008/cric-j10.shtml