Australia Vs. India Test Series Thread

[Skillz]

WTF is all this about.

MartinOz you sound like a tool of the highest order. No one actually heard Harbhajan say monkey. There is no proof. So he has been labelled a racist on the word of Ponting. Now lets see. Ponting...isn't he Harbajhan's b*tch in a cricketing sense...always get's out to him right?!

Maybe Ponting thought, I want to get some runs so I'll make up this thing about Harbhajan saying monkey. And what the **** has it got to do with Symonds if Bhaji was having a bit of banter with Lee. Symonds had to act all big brother and get involved

Fact is Ponting is a cheat, Clarke is an even bigger cheat, and Symonds is a cock and a cheat. Make up stuff about racist comments then you call India sore losers. Maybe you lot should be gracious in victory....I mean you did cheat your way to the record!

That is your introduction to this thread. Just want to point out that I will pay no attention to your posts other than to take the piss :bird:

For those three people that heard it there is Sachin, the two umpires, the stump mic who never heard it. When you brand someone a racist on the basis of what three people allegedly heard but the majority of the others didn't then there is something wrong

As a side note, I remember when Panesar was touring with England in Australia and was subjected to racist abuse. There were people from Aussie Cricket saying it's no big deal and it's just the Aussie way.

Symonds is a numpty anyway...sticking up for Brett Lee after a bit of banter between Bhaji and Lee. He needs to chill out

Clarke giving evidence...the guy that claims grassed catches against India and Australia and stands in his crease like an idiot after thick edging one to Dravid. I know who I'd believe out of Sachin, Clarke, Symonds and Hayden...and it's not because I'm Indian either

Harbi should of been let go, without a doubt. Why he has been found guilty is anyone's guess, but it is not Ricky Ponting's fault.

I just want to say that the ICC and ACB and others need to get their **** together before the Oz 1st 11 do.

That's my thoughts.

[Sarb]

That is your introduction to this thread. Just want to point out that I will pay no attention to your posts other than to take the piss :bird:




Harbi should of been let go, without a doubt. Why he has been found guilty is anyone's guess, but it is not Ricky Ponting's fault.

I just want to say that the ICC and ACB and others need to get their **** together before the Oz 1st 11 do.

That's my thoughts.

Oh it is Ricky Ponting's fault. He reported something he never heard...ie Harbi calling Symonds a monkey.

Oh and you can take the p*ss out of my posts if you want...each to their own



Hope Bhaji gets him out again in the next two tests.

[Skillz]

Oh it is Ricky Ponting's fault. He reported something he never heard...ie Harbi calling Symonds a monkey.

Oh and you can take the p*ss out of my posts if you want...each to their own



Hope Bhaji gets him out again in the next two tests.

Ponting is the Captain. Symmonds heard it, 2 other team mates confirmed they heard it, not the first time it's happened. What is he to do? Tall everyone to forget about it. Sorry mate, tried that before, didn't work.

you can blame Ponting all you want but for me he did the only thing he could do and should do. He would lose all respect in the team if he didn't

[carlton]

Oh it is Ricky Ponting's fault. He reported something he never heard...ie Harbi calling Symonds a monkey.

Oh and you can take the p*ss out of my posts if you want...each to their own



Hope Bhaji gets him out again in the next two tests.

Why dont you have a look at the url below and get off your high horse about
the Australians being cheats and liars. Symonds told him he been abused and Ponting had a duty as a test captain to report it. Stop ignoring the fact that Harbi has form when it comes to racially abusing Symonds. He has been made aware that Symonds considers monkey to be a term of abuse but that didnt stop him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrp53wKHgb0

[Harv]

Cant wait to see how the Indians deal with Tait in Perth

The WACA wicket is going to be lethal apparently, and if he bowls a few bouncers at the lower order he could kill them

[Sarb]

Why dont you have a look at the url below and get off your high horse about
the Australians being cheats and liars. Symonds told him he been abused and Ponting had a duty as a test captain to report it. Stop ignoring the fact that Harbi has form when it comes to racially abusing Symonds. He has been made aware that Symonds considers monkey to be a term of abuse but that didnt stop him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrp53wKHgb0

What are you trying to prove with the URL? Aussies are cheats and liars, and that URL doesn't change the fact

And did you hear Harbi call Symonds a monkey? Answer is no so stop stating it as fact

[carlton]

What are you trying to prove with the URL? Aussies are cheats and liars, and that URL doesn't change the fact

And did you hear Harbi call Symonds a monkey? Answer is no so stop stating it as fact

Of course I didnt you wally but using your kindergarten logic how do you know he didnt? oh thats right because sachin said he didnt and the umps didnt hear and the mics didnt pick it up yeah yeah yeah. Some of the Indian players are just sooks and carry on like they have never appealed when they knew that batsman wasnt out or done anything against the spirit of the game-like Gavaskar- thats the point of the url but its was obviously wasted on the likes of you. you are a shocker mate.

[Sarb]

Of course I didnt you wally but using your kindergarten logic how do you know he didnt? oh thats right because sachin said he didnt and the umps didnt hear and the mics didnt pick it up yeah yeah yeah. Some of the Indian players are just sooks and carry on like they have never appealed when they knew that batsman wasnt out or done anything against the spirit of the game-like Gavaskar- thats the point of the url but its was obviously wasted on the likes of you. you are a shocker mate.

Leave it out mate. I can get plenty of URLs like that about Aussies but im not going to bother

No proof of the comment so no point going on about it

If three Mancs told you that Gerrard called em a racist comment but no one picked it up even on tv mics or video...you'd believe the Mancs? Just like Steve Finnan apparently said to Evra a season or so ago? People on here were jumping up and down saying where is the proof?

At the end of the day unless the umpires and tv cameras heard it, he shouldn't have been branded a racist. There was no concrete evidence besides the word of three Aussies.

That's my final post on this subject. Hopefully you can understand that and don't have a problem understanding it

[carlton]

Harbi has a history of racially abusing Symonds-fact. He hasnt denied saying it either.Good on ya mate, according to you the Aussies are liars and the only way they can beat India at cricket is to lie and cheat? gee thats fair and open minded.

[DeeGame]

Great thread guys

[tsb]

What is patently obvious is that we are not going to agree. Shall we all cut our losses, become friends and start talking about the third test?

It promises to be a charged match after all the recent issues. I predict India thrash the Aussies by an innings!

[Skillz]

What is patently obvious is that we are not going to agree. Shall we all cut our losses, become friends and start talking about the third test?

It promises to be a charged match after all the recent issues. I predict India thrash the Aussies by an innings!

I didn't really have many problems with the Indians TBF (The BCCI is a different story). My gripe is at the Aussie press/media etc and the OTT reaction and slating of our team.

[tsb]

I didn't really have many problems with the Indians TBF (The BCCI is a different story). My gripe is at the Aussie press/media etc and the OTT reaction and slating of our team.

From my viewpoint, (racist commet aside) it was infuriating to see India lose a test in which such major decisions went against them. It's hard enough to get a sniff Down Under and when the rug gets pulled out like that it's a kick in the nads. The last visit in 03/04 was brilliant, I was hoping to see a challenge like that again. Oh well, two more left.

[DeeGame]

Aussie fans blast Ponting
Mike Walters 09/01/2008

Ricky Ponting was branded a "cry-baby" last night as Aussies turned on their team for being arrogant, abrasive and poor advocates for sportsmanship.

Despite leading Australia to a record-equalling 16 consecutive Test wins, Ponting even faced calls for his sacking after he fuelled the 'Bollyline' row with India by squealing to the headmaster about banter in the playground.

Ponting claimed he grassed on Indian spinner Harbhajan Singh, who allegedly called Aussie all-rounder Andrew Symonds a "monkey", for the good of the game.

But India's threat to abandon their tour after Harbhajan was handed a three-Test ban has brought Ponting's part in the furore into sharp focus.

And the public backlash in Oz has hardly been the stuff of ticker-tape parades, ordinary cobbers siding with Indian skipper Anil Kumble's observation that "only one team was playing within the spirit of the game".

Former Pakistan captain Wasim Akram said: "We didn't behave like cry babies and go running to the officials every time something was said out in the middle.

"They (Australia) do it constantly and more than anyone else, so how they can complain about the behaviour of other teams, I don't know."

Ponting made sanctimonious claims that he was only obeying orders when he shopped Harbhajan last Friday.

He said: "Over the past two years, match referees have made it very clear at the start of every series that it is the captain's responsibility to report racism either from the crowd or on the field.

"When I heard what had taken place, I informed the umpires and left the field to inform our team manager, which is what we were instructed to do.

"I had nothing to gain from taking this action - I was doing the right thing by the game."

How very subservient. Yesterday, the Sydney Morning Herald called for Ponting to be axed, saying Cricket Australia should not tolerate the "arrogant and abrasive conduct seen from the captain".

And in an online poll conducted by another Sydney paper, the Daily Telegraph, 83 per cent of respondents agreed Ponting was not a good ambassador for cricket.

Ponting's predecessor Steve Waugh, king of the sledgers himself, claimed there was a cultural gap and Indians simply did not understand the true intentions of grown men in baggy green caps barking at them.

Waugh claimed: "Teams playing Australia fail to understand the banter, gamesmanship, sledging, or whatever anyone calls it. If Harbhajan did say it, it's both puerile and stupid after he was warned during the one-day series last year.

"Clearly this can be viewed as racist, but many on the subcontinent see it as their way of taking the mickey."

Behind the scenes, the spineless International Cricket Council performed a U-turn by axing umpire Steve Bucknor for the third Test in Perth.

Hours earlier, ICC had insisted Bucknor - under fire from India over a series of dire decisions - would not be replaced.

Chief executive Malcolm Speed denied ICC had caved in to pressure from the powerful Indian board and claimed: "No team has the right to object to an appointment."

Harbhajan has been cleared to play in Perth while he awaits the outcome of his appeal against his three-match ban, but Australia's Brad Hogg faces a disciplinary hearing next Monday over allegations that he verbally abused Kumble and Mahendra Singh Dhoni.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricke...9520-20279385/

Ironic how the Aussie public are turning their back on Ponting.

Hope Hogg has the book thrown at him IF there is conclusive proof he verbally abused Kumble and Dhoni.

[Tee]

Players always verbally abuse each other - Youtube some of the recent India-Pakistan series for some new hindi/urdu swear words!!

Racial abuse is a totally different kettle of fish and (once proven) it should be dealt with a severe penalty, eg a 6 month ban or similar.