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    #76
    Well I'm sold

    I'd be delighted to see him in the fold again but he's not bowled a ball in international cricket for 3 years so I hope the selectors take their time with him. If we could unleash him on the Aussies we might be in with a fighting chance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1NFbVx0uN8&feature=related

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      #77
      Don't agree with Flintoff being our best bowler anymore, he's had one good/great series with the ball and that was the Ashes 2005, but since Troy Cooley has left and Flintoff has been injured and abusing his body, he's not the same bowler at all.
      But we'll see.

      We are going to get hammered by the Aussies, but it's the usual problem, we don't have the bowlers. That's the reason e won in 2005, our bowlers were on fire and most of the credit has to go to Troy Cooley.
      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
      (1995)
      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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        #78
        Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
        Absolutely! This is not a dip - bar a ton against NZ the bloke just has not and does not score runs. Stuart Broad has scored more than Vaughan in the time since Broad's debut and Vaughan's woeful form goes way further back than Broad's debut. That says it all.

        As for the captain - this is the major issue and a fair question. I want Vaughan dropped but there are no stand-out captains. KP, Flintoff, Bell....no way. Strauss is the closest I can think of but for me he's better off concentrating on maintaining his revival.

        Tough one. We have a captain who, since his injury problems, can't buy a run, but no alternative skipper.
        Someone said today and from the little I have seen I tend to agree that the best Vaughn replacement would be Key. The trouble is he is very much out of the test picture - I would have though though that this series with a pace attack like SAs would be ideal to give him a chance (I mean as a batsman).

        I think Vaughn needs to be given some time batting somewhere to recover genuine form. All this failing early speaks to me of someone who isn't totally match sharp. He definitely needs to be vulnerable to a change, currently he is a rut and doesn't seem to be altering anything much to get out of it.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          #79
          Originally posted by dww View Post
          Someone said today and from the little I have seen I tend to agree that the best Vaughn replacement would be Key. The trouble is he is very much out of the test picture - I would have though though that this series with a pace attack like SAs would be ideal to give him a chance (I mean as a batsman).

          I think Vaughn needs to be given some time batting somewhere to recover genuine form. All this failing early speaks to me of someone who isn't totally match sharp. He definitely needs to be vulnerable to a change, currently he is a rut and doesn't seem to be altering anything much to get out of it.

          Who's your captain mate?
          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
          (1995)
          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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            #80
            Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
            All batsmen go through bad spells and because he's the captain it's highlighted. Same happened with Hussain and Atherton. McGrath, Merv Hughes and Ambrose used to own Atherton, often he'd fall in the first over.
            Hussain went through a spell where he kept getting variable low bounce and LBW. Form is temporary, class is permanent.


            what class is that? Hussain and Atherton were average at best
            "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

            "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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              #81
              Originally posted by Matt View Post
              Well I'm sold

              I'd be delighted to see him in the fold again but he's not bowled a ball in international cricket for 3 years so I hope the selectors take their time with him. If we could unleash him on the Aussies we might be in with a fighting chance.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1NFb...eature=related
              thats a great idea....put a pissed up has been in against us....you're bound to win that way
              "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

              "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                #82
                Got the clip of where Freddie sledges Yuvraj in the 20:20 world cup and then Broad gets smacked for 6 sixes. There is some great commentary on that as well....6, 6, 6,....and the crowd go Balle, Balle, Balle

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                  Got the clip of where Freddie sledges Yuvraj in the 20:20 world cup and then Broad gets smacked for 6 sixes. There is some great commentary on that as well....6, 6, 6,....and the crowd go Balle, Balle, Balle
                  Any opportunity to bring that up with you
                  Bring Back Pako


                  Oh dear

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                    Got the clip of where Freddie sledges Yuvraj in the 20:20 world cup and then Broad gets smacked for 6 sixes. There is some great commentary on that as well....6, 6, 6,....and the crowd go Balle, Balle, Balle
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejL-EwprjE


                    Broad is my fave player

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                      #85
                      SA 158/4 at lunch

                      Amla given lbw but wasnt out, but then neither was Cook so I guess they do even out sometimes
                      "For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son"

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                        Who's your captain mate?
                        I'm not really sure. I just think that at the minute for all of Vaughns good work in the field the team overall seems to be under performing. I would say that Strauss would appear to be the best 'safe pair of hands' type option if you were looking to shake things up elsewhere.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          I'm not really sure. I just think that at the minute for all of Vaughns good work in the field the team overall seems to be under performing. I would say that Strauss would appear to be the best 'safe pair of hands' type option if you were looking to shake things up elsewhere.
                          You should make KP Your Captain. He will benefit fron the added pressure and is the type of player that will lead by example
                          "For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son"

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by SouthAfricaRed View Post
                            You should make KP Your Captain. He will benefit fron the added pressure and is the type of player that will lead by example
                            I'd like to think you were right but I'm not so sure myself.

                            An England win in this Test now looks extremely unlikely.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by SouthAfricaRed View Post
                              You should make KP Your Captain. He will benefit fron the added pressure and is the type of player that will lead by example
                              Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                              I'd like to think you were right but I'm not so sure myself.

                              An England win in this Test now looks extremely unlikely.
                              Don't mind having a player of other nationality playing but don't like the idea of captaining the test side especially, I know Tony Greig did it but I wasn't born so it makes no difference to me.

                              I'ts been a poor performance from the bowling attack really, Pattinson is like a goldfish in the pacific. Onions would have ben a good option, someone who has been around the county scene for a while and can bowl 90mph+ regularly.

                              Anyone else notice that in ODI's Anderson and Broad are 90mph+ but only mid 80's in tests?
                              Bring Back Pako


                              Oh dear

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Colemere View Post
                                Don't mind having a player of other nationality playing but don't like the idea of captaining the test side especially, I know Tony Greig did it but I wasn't born so it makes no difference to me.

                                I'ts been a poor performance from the bowling attack really, Pattinson is like a goldfish in the pacific. Onions would have ben a good option, someone who has been around the county scene for a while and can bowl 90mph+ regularly.

                                Anyone else notice that in ODI's Anderson and Broad are 90mph+ but only mid 80's in tests?
                                Don't forget the Nass

                                Born in Madras i believe

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