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Paul.S
You guys simply have no idea for such a groundless speculation apart from "reading between the lines"
Paula spent the earlier part of her career running 5k and 10k, and was a violent objector to drug taking, even at one meeting staying behind to shout and demonstrate against a Russian who had failed a test but was still being allwed to compete. The level of her opposition would in itself make her an obvious target of more numerous testing but more importantly one of utmost hiprocacy.
Paula only started winning races at the Marathon distance, which suited her style given her lack of sprint finish.
In terms of Beijing, she had a ****ing stress fracture of her leg for crying out loud. You try running on that!! Atheletes view the Olympics as the pinnacle of their career and I completely understand the reason why she decided to run despite her being not fully fit.
But hey, why let the facts and the history of her career and her overall attitude prevent some good old British mud-slinging and back stabbing>
As for Kelly Holmes, look what happened to her after Sydney - oh she changed coaches to Maria Mutola's coach and also consistently trained with her.
You guys simply have no idea for such a groundless speculation apart from "reading between the lines"
Paula spent the earlier part of her career running 5k and 10k, and was a violent objector to drug taking, even at one meeting staying behind to shout and demonstrate against a Russian who had failed a test but was still being allwed to compete. The level of her opposition would in itself make her an obvious target of more numerous testing but more importantly one of utmost hiprocacy.
Paula only started winning races at the Marathon distance, which suited her style given her lack of sprint finish.
In terms of Beijing, she had a ****ing stress fracture of her leg for crying out loud. You try running on that!! Atheletes view the Olympics as the pinnacle of their career and I completely understand the reason why she decided to run despite her being not fully fit.
But hey, why let the facts and the history of her career and her overall attitude prevent some good old British mud-slinging and back stabbing>
As for Kelly Holmes, look what happened to her after Sydney - oh she changed coaches to Maria Mutola's coach and also consistently trained with her.
Groundless speculation? Funny, but that's is what all these great British athletes and Olympians like Jonathan Edwards do when a Chinese athlete comes from nowhere and wins a major title - they speculate that they have be doped up. Yet when a British athlete does it they acclaim them as heroes. **** these double standards. I'm willing to bet British athletes are no more clean or pure than any other nation's.
Back up your argument on PR and KH, and describe if you can or are capable, how these athletes "came from nowhere". Your random rant about British commentators complaining about other nations has nothing to do with this thread.
How did Holmes come out of nowhere? Maybe in terms of people who only watch track at the Olympics had never seen much of her, but she was double Commonwealth champion and had been British record holder for ten years. She was well fancied before Athens to do well in the eight, and the fifteen is her favoured event.
Back up your argument on PR and KH, and describe if you can or are capable, how these athletes "came from nowhere". Your random rant about British commentators complaining about other nations has nothing to do with this thread.
I've never accused Radcliffe or Holmes of being drugs cheats, I don't know if they are and I don't care if they are. All I have done is support Sisterstiff's right to accuse them if he wishes, as he is doing nothing different than what the British press and British athletes have themselves done in relation to other nations' athletes.
Drugs cheats are at least one step ahead of the testers; some drugs disappear out of the system within 24 hours, and blood transfusions can be even more difficult to test for. Having said that, Radcliffe doesn't strike me as a doper; she seems to do everything the hard way. She failed in Athens because she ran the wrong race and the conditions were too harsh and this year she's suffered a pretty major injury. Nothing more, nothing less.
Well PR was poor, as bad as i've seen her, whether she was a drug aided winner we'll maybe never know, but then again...maybe we will.
Don't they hold samples of athletes for years now, till a better method of testing is found, the next breakthrough, it's a case of finding out what the cheats are/were using that doesn't show on a test, then testing for it, it'll happen, then the chemists that make the drugs will think of new ones, it's an ongoing recurring theme.
I've never accused Radcliffe or Holmes of being drugs cheats, I don't know if they are and I don't care if they are. All I have done is support Sisterstiff's right to accuse them if he wishes, as he is doing nothing different than what the British press and British athletes have themselves done in relation to other nations' athletes.
I think Holmes and Radcliffe had to push themselves to incredible levels to finally win golds and Kelly thought at her age she'd done enough, didn't want to go through another 4 years of it and decided to leave at the top. Radcliffe's body is now reacting to the abuse she had to put it through to win.
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