Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Fight Set

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I laughed at Nicey when he said that UFC will be bigger than boxing in 10 years and I think that was about 2 years ago and it already is. Boxing is a joke nowadays where as UFC has all the excitement and none of the fight dodging and piss poor matches up that boxing has.

Boxing is dying and it is being killed by boxing not alternative sports.

I agree that there are a lot of issues with the sport of boxing but to say that it's dying is a hilarious over reaction.

The biggest selling PPV in American in 2010 was a boxing match.

The UFC is not a sport. The UFC is a very successful MMA organisation.
MMA and UFC are not one in the same. The heavyweight champion of the UFC is the not the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world.

Oh and for those who are saying that Haye vs The Brothers Grimm needs to get done for the sake of boxing? They're talking pish. Either fight excites no one and has a very limited appeal. Look to the lower weight division in boxing they are positively teaming with talent and great fights.

Carl Froch has been involved in possibly the greatest run of fights that a British boxer has ever been in. Seriously look who he's fought in his last five fights. If you don't know what i'm on about then you're not a fan of boxing per say. More of a casual fan one who takes a passing interest when Sky have a PPV they need selling.

[Drago]

I agree that there are a lot of issues with the sport of boxing but to say that it's dying is a hilarious over reaction.

The biggest selling PPV in American in 2010 was a boxing match.

The UFC is not a sport. The UFC is a very successful MMA organisation.
MMA and UFC are not one in the same. The heavyweight champion of the UFC is the not the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world.

Oh and for those who are saying that Haye vs The Brothers Grimm needs to get done for the sake of boxing? They're talking pish. Either fight excites no one and has a very limited appeal. Look to the lower weight division in boxing they are positively teaming with talent and great fights.

Carl Froch has been involved in possibly the greatest run of fights that a British boxer has ever been in. Seriously look who he's fought in his last five fights. If you don't know what i'm on about then you're not a fan of boxing per say. More of a casual fan one who takes a passing interest when Sky have a PPV they need selling.

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post this here because i can't be arsed starting another thread for it

Sky Sports saturday night fight night - a lad i know is fighting, Jamie Speight...it's my mates cousin - met him a few times, nice lad but a bit cocky, it was a few years ago before he turned pro tho, came up and stayed at ours and went to liverpool a couple times with him.

[Chrono]

I agree that there are a lot of issues with the sport of boxing but to say that it's dying is a hilarious over reaction.

The biggest selling PPV in American in 2010 was a boxing match.

The UFC is not a sport. The UFC is a very successful MMA organisation.
MMA and UFC are not one in the same. The heavyweight champion of the UFC is the not the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world.

Oh and for those who are saying that Haye vs The Brothers Grimm needs to get done for the sake of boxing? They're talking pish. Either fight excites no one and has a very limited appeal. Look to the lower weight division in boxing they are positively teaming with talent and great fights.

Carl Froch has been involved in possibly the greatest run of fights that a British boxer has ever been in. Seriously look who he's fought in his last five fights. If you don't know what i'm on about then you're not a fan of boxing per say. More of a casual fan one who takes a passing interest when Sky have a PPV they need selling.

Might be the most patronising post I have ever read

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Might be the most patronising post I have ever read

Doubtful.

Merely countering your frankly hysterical assertion that boxing is a dying sport and that UFC offers more excitement.

Watching grown men dry humping each other for 15 minutes is not everyone's idea of a fun evenings viewing.

Still each to their own

[Suarez]

Doubtful.

Merely countering your frankly hysterical assertion that boxing is a dying sport and that UFC offers more excitement.

Watching grown men dry humping each other for 15 minutes is not everyone's idea of a fun evenings viewing.

Still each to their own

Yes, watching the ground game may not be to a lot of peoples taste, especially those who don't understand the sport, but give me that over the farcical "fights" being dished out in the heavyweight boxing division.

There are some fantastic fights in the lower weights granted, but the main event has always been the heavyweight division, and its been a ****ing joke now since Bowe threw his belt in the bin rather than taking on Lewis.

MMA and more specifically, the UFC, is the future of fighting sports. The biggest PPV even of last year may have been boxing, but I'd like to see the figures for televised boxing events through the year in comparison to the UFC. Decent big boxing fights are few and far between, hence its rarer and therefore generates a lot of interest. The UFC has many events per year but pulls in good audiences each and everytime. You can't duck fights in the UFC, boxing seems to almost encourage it. It needs a major overhaul.

[Daniel 7]

UFC iz well gaaayyyyyy

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Yes, watching the ground game may not be to a lot of peoples taste, especially those who don't understand the sport, but give me that over the farcical "fights" being dished out in the heavyweight boxing division.

There are some fantastic fights in the lower weights granted, but the main event has always been the heavyweight division, and its been a ****ing joke now since Bowe threw his belt in the bin rather than taking on Lewis.

MMA and more specifically, the UFC, is the future of fighting sports. The biggest PPV even of last year may have been boxing, but I'd like to see the figures for televised boxing events through the year in comparison to the UFC. Decent big boxing fights are few and far between, hence its rarer and therefore generates a lot of interest. The UFC has many events per year but pulls in good audiences each and everytime. You can't duck fights in the UFC, boxing seems to almost encourage it. It needs a major overhaul.

The problem with fans of the UFC is that they seem to think that it's a sport. It's not. It's a MMA organisation.

Who's the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world? Fedor? Lesner? Overeem? Dos Santos? Why don't they have a fight and see who's the best? Oh wait they cant, can they? Why not? Because they all fight for different organisations.

Lets put it another way. The UFC heavyweight champ is "ducking" the Strikeforce heavyweight champ because they've not fought each other.

Simplistic perhaps but it's the very same argument you've just used.

Not since the hayday of a young Mike Tyson has the heavyweight division been where it's at in boxing.

You decry the lack of 'big' boxing matches last year but i bet you a pound to a penny that you never saw Simpson vs Lindsay or Froch vs Abraham. One a potential British fight of the year and the other a clinic from quite possibly the most underrated British boxer ever. What about Marquez vs Kastidas? Two great warriors who put on one hell of a fight.

Oh and before you ask I've been watching MMA for well over a decade so I'm pretty well versed in all things UFC and the like.

The quality of some of the UFC cards over the last year has been nothing short of shocking.

Ortiz vs Griffen headlining a PPV? In 2010? Really? Oh come on.
Coture vs Vera?
Liddel vs Franklin? $50 for that PPV? Oh yes please!

[Suarez]

The problem with fans of the UFC is that they seem to think that it's a sport. It's not. It's a MMA organisation.

Who's the best heavyweight MMA fighter in the world? Fedor? Lesner? Overeem? Dos Santos? Why don't they have a fight and see who's the best? Oh wait they cant, can they? Why not? Because they all fight for different organisations.

Lets put it another way. The UFC heavyweight champ is "ducking" the Strikeforce heavyweight champ because they've not fought each other.

Simplistic perhaps but it's the very same argument you've just used.

Not since the hayday of a young Mike Tyson has the heavyweight division been where it's at in boxing.

You decry the lack of 'big' boxing matches last year but i bet you a pound to a penny that you never saw Simpson vs Lindsay or Froch vs Abraham. One a potential British fight of the year and the other a clinic from quite possibly the most underrated British boxer ever. What about Marquez vs Kastidas? Two great warriors who put on one hell of a fight.

Oh and before you ask I've been watching MMA for well over a decade so I'm pretty well versed in all things UFC and the like.

The quality of some of the UFC cards over the last year has been nothing short of shocking.

Ortiz vs Griffen headlining a PPV? In 2010? Really? Oh come on.
Coture vs Vera?
Liddel vs Franklin? $50 for that PPV? Oh yes please!

I think people thinking that the UFC is a sport, not recognising that its MMA is a hugely irrelevent and I'm not sure why you consider it such a problem?

As a matter of fact, I've watched the majority of Froch's fights including he Abraham fight, all of Calzaghe's, Lewis's, Tysons, Eubanks, Benn and the majority of Mayweather, and Pacquiao's fights, so lets not be presumptuous.

There are obvious problems with MMA as there are with Boxing, but I don't see why you single out ****ty MMA fights when there are plenty of great ones too, as there is with boxing. The heavyweight devision though is a farce and is imo, pathetic entertainment compared to MMA's equivalent.

The PPV argument is just plain stupid as poor examples are evident on both sides too.

Haye v Harrison $30 PPV ooh, please
Khan v Barrera $35 PPV certainly Sir

[red g]

post this here because i can't be arsed starting another thread for it

Sky Sports saturday night fight night - a lad i know is fighting, Jamie Speight...it's my mates cousin - met him a few times, nice lad but a bit cocky, it was a few years ago before he turned pro tho, came up and stayed at ours and went to liverpool a couple times with him.

He got ****ted, looked well out of his depth.

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lol - yeah i know, was only going tp post again in here if he won

yeah, it was a big step up in class for him probably too soon - 5th round (out of 6) stoppage was it? - i watched it on sky plus when i got home and was a bit drunk so can't remember it all - but to me it looked a bit too much of man vs boy.

[Chris]

It was a stupid move putting someone that young and inexperienced in with Nigel Wright, his matchmakers have done him badly there. Though you could argue if you're getting whooped by Nigel Wright you wont go that far anyway but he's a decent boxer who doesnt get stopped.

[PTP]

yeah i watched it again last night when i could focus a bit better....to me he looked like he didn't have a punch - i was worried when i saw that his first 7 pro fights were all points wins - surely as an up and coming pro you'd want a stoppage or too - and he just doesn't look like he has a punch in him - apparently he is proper ****ing gutted about - think it will be a while before we see him on SKy Sports again

[Pablo]

Haye is at it again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/9412442.stm

Just shut the **** up until a deal is signed!

This **** ruins boxing

[Shaggy]

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