Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Fight Set

[Vermilion]

YouTube - ‪Naz vs Eubank‬‏

I liked Naz, he stopped too early. He wasn't dull wasn't he?

Boxing used to be great.

[Shaggy]

This is funny

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYnL5dZ2eBk"]YouTube - ‪Wladimir Klitschko's Haye summary‬‏[/ame]

[RichC]

ha ha ha ha that's pretty decent - sometimes pictures tell you the story

[Tee]

Quality from Wladimir. I kinda like the guy now.

[Shaggy]

I do. Still a ****ing mind-numbingly boring fighter to watch but seems a great bloke.

[Pablo]

Brillant clip from Wlad that

[Chazza]

David Haye wants Wladimir Klitschko rematch or he will retire

• David Haye had said he would retire on 13 October
• Heavyweight refuses to be drawn on fight with Vitali Klitschko

David Haye will only postpone retirement if he can have a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko, who took his WBA heavyweight belt from him on a unanimous decision last week in Hamburg.

Haye has continually stated that he will finish his career on 13 October, when he turns 31, and he said: "I definitely want to stick to my retirement plans, but when some beats you, you feel gutted – I'm such a competitive person. I'm going to retire on 13 October but the only person I would break my retirement for his the guy who's beaten me: Wladimir Klitschko."

Asked if Klitschko's elder brother, Vitali, the WBC champion, was an option Haye said: "I don't know. I don't have a beef with his brother. It's Wladimir, Wladmir beat me."

Klitschko is now the WBO, IBO, IBF, WBA and Ring magazine champion. If Haye cannot fight him again then he would realistically have only one more fight remaining before he retires in October.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011...tch?CMP=twt_gu

[Shaggy]

Makes sense, although a rematch would go the same way. That said, I still believe Haye is capable of taking him out if he gets through with a couple of haymakers.

[Chazza]

He would have to completely change the game plan and pretty much work himself into the ground for the first 6-8 rounds, getting inside behind Vlads jab and landing some telling shots

Easier said than done as Vlad does tend to lean on people when they get too close

His other hope is that Klit takes it less seriously knowing he has already beaten him once

[BillobShaisley]

All seems a bit harsh on Haye to me. Fair enough he was nowhere near on points but on the other side at no point was he ever in any trouble either. It was a boring match, never has the old cliche of styles making fights been so true. Lennox used to use the jab a lot but then he'd usually figure out how to land some heavy rights too, Vlad never did and I'd question whether he even tried to.

As for the toe, when you're competing at an elite level, little niggles like that can make a significant difference. Use of the feet and lower body to propel or base a punch is crucial and if it slowed Haye's movement by a fraction of a second that can be the difference between landing one flush or being parried. It should have been his trainer that raised the issue to avoid Haye looking like he was making excuses.

For all the **** going Haye's way now the real criticism should be that a reigning multi-belt champion fighting in his home country couldn't come close to putting him away before the scorecards.

[Shaggy]

All seems a bit harsh on Haye to me. Fair enough he was nowhere near on points but on the other side at no point was he ever in any trouble either. It was a boring match, never has the old cliche of styles making fights been so true. Lennox used to use the jab a lot but then he'd usually figure out how to land some heavy rights too, Vlad never did and I'd question whether he even tried to.

Agreed. Although Wlad won comfortably in the end, he didn't "batter him" as I've read so often. He won most rounds but the rounds were quite close. And IMO Haye hurt Wlad more than the other way round.

As for the toe, when you're competing at an elite level, little niggles like that can make a significant difference. Use of the feet and lower body to propel or base a punch is crucial and if it slowed Haye's movement by a fraction of a second that can be the difference between landing one flush or being parried. It should have been his trainer that raised the issue to avoid Haye looking like he was making excuses.

Again completely agree with this. Too much macho crap being spouted about the broken toe.

For all the **** going Haye's way now the real criticism should be that a reigning multi-belt champion fighting in his home country couldn't come close to putting him away before the scorecards.

Again agreed. Also can't believe some of the ridicule aimed Haye's way. He was a legitimate heavyweight champion of the world, cleaned up at cruiserweight and his wins over the likes of Mormeck, Valuev and Ruiz are not to be sniffed at. Yet people are happy to call him a "joke", "loser" and "biggest boxing fraud ever". Give me a ****ing break.

[Chazza]

I agree with you both

Most people are reveling in his failure due to the pre fight build up and his apparent 'arrogance' and a 'lack of class'. Its a business FFS about selling tickets and making money and this is what sells the big heavyweight fights.

[Shaggy]

[Suarez]

I agree with you both

Most people are reveling in his failure due to the pre fight build up and his apparent 'arrogance' and a 'lack of class'. Its a business FFS about selling tickets and making money and this is what sells the big heavyweight fights.

Klitchskco didn't have to resort to those tactics did he?

[Chazza]

Klitchskco didn't have to resort to those tactics did he?

No but if neither of them did the fight profile would not have been so high.

Your not telling me the 2 camps don't have discussions about the 'PR' and agree on how the build up to the fight should be handled?