Boxing

[Fosterbloke]

There's a few people in this thread, you included, who's knowledge of boxing and the efforts involved are way more in-depth and described in such a thorough manner that it puts the efforts of those describing football to shame. I like boxing and have watched for over 30 years but I don't notice what you lot do. You're either brilliant blaggers or you know your stuff. I'm fairly confident it's the latter. I love reading the posts even if I've missed the fight itself!

One of your best posts Bob!

[Doc_Piptorious]

Also depends what you're looking for in terms of balance. If you're talking about counter punching/combination punching and always ending up in a decent position, being able to throw punches from any position, always keeping the ideal range in relation to an opponent it is always different. Many heavyweights have horrendous balance as they're disproportionate and often try to throw too hard leaving themselves in awful positions after the punch has been thrown. Deontay Wilder is a prime example of this.

Take a look at Juan Manuel Marquez. Very seldom do you see a fighter who lunges in as much as he did and still maintain a good overall position. Also dropping his hands half way through a combination and somehow raising them just in time to parry an opponents blow - then continue punching.

Also good shout on Mayweather and Ward above. Mayweather has had it so well ingrained in him. It's incredible how he used to step backwards so quickly but maintain perfect boxing stance ready to control distance, attack and defend. Strong base for his composure, quite often overlooked in the analysis of him where people automatically look at his fast hands and shoulder roll.

Juan Manuel Marquez is a great shout. His control and mastery of the basics were so ingrained into him that it was second nature to him to stay balanced after throwing the sort of shot or jab that could potentially leave a fighter off balance and open to a counter. His fantastic balance played a big part in him at the age of 39 being able to go the distance with Tim Bradley.

Read before that he based his lunging style on a lot of what Hagler used to do, specifically the gazelle jab that Hagler perfected. And that gazelle jab was in turn a nod towards certain martial artists from the 1960s and 1970s.


And talking of guys that took influence from others with regards to stance and techniques for maintaining balance, Ward used to watch a lot of martial arts and studied the no fixed stance style of Bruce Lee to come up with his own variation of what Lee did.

Basically the premise was that you would remain fluid during a fight to the degree you did not revery to any one stance as a default. For Ward it allowed him to switch from southpaw to orthodox and back again over and over during fights and not miss a beat. He was so slick in doing it that he would be able to do it as he bent his knees to move and would be in the new stance before the other fighter or the commentators noticed. Often it would only be after he had thrown his first shot from the new stance that it would be picked up upon.

[fidget]

This is a good little breakdown of Hagler's fluidity

http://dailystarmovies.com/videomovi...YZBUI5mk0.html

[Fosterbloke]

Oh **** that Hopkins - Trinidad fight was brilliant!

So weird that 5,000 people died only two weeks before.

[Fosterbloke]

This is a good little breakdown of Hagler's fluidity

http://dailystarmovies.com/videomovi...YZBUI5mk0.html

That's a great video. I've heard of these fighters but I've never really been into boxing. I like it when I watch it though.

But damn that Hagler looked like he could punch through steel from any angle.

[Deano]

I'm **** at posting pics on here- But have you seen the Tyson Fury pic today by Frank Warren- **** me that is some weight loss... Starting to really put on muscle

[marcus50bucks]

Looking forward to Lomachenko v Linares at the weekend. Good match-up, style wise

[Zapater]

So Sauerland says that Groves is still 50-50 for the final and we'll need to see if he recovers in time for the final. Would be hilarious if Eubank had to step in and won, especially after all (Naz ) had to say after his last fight.

On the subject of hilarious, Kalle Sauerland. There needs to be a Hollywood movie based on him. He must surely be a writers dream. Rich, impeccably German kid, with that hilarious London accent when speaking English, no signs of it when speaking German. His perpetual coked up state, even when he's possibly not on he's got the sweats, his head moving everywhere, the occasional Hodgeson face rub and twitching like a mad ****er. It's a good thing the promoters don't get tested, because he'd be sitting next to Canelo with a 6 month ban. So wired.

There's a few people in this thread, you included, who's knowledge of boxing and the efforts involved are way more in-depth and described in such a thorough manner that it puts the efforts of those describing football to shame. I like boxing and have watched for over 30 years but I don't notice what you lot do. You're either brilliant blaggers or you know your stuff. I'm fairly confident it's the latter. I love reading the posts even if I've missed the fight itself!

It's all about the nuances

Honestly though, boxing is a great sport.

[Zapater]

[ame="https://youtu.be/tVLQpXrfx3Q"]KALLE SAULERLAND WONT RULE OUT SMITH-EUBANK, TALKS GROVES, BANTAMWEIGHTS, 2 MORE WEIGHTS COMING - YouTube[/ame]

8 min 10 sec - his heart skipped a beat.

[Shaggy]

Loved that AJ-Wlad documentary last night. Great stuff.

[Buzzo]

Loved that AJ-Wlad documentary last night. Great stuff.

Is that the one on Netflix?

Its brilliant

[Shaggy]

Not seen that one - it was this on the BBC. They discuss the fight together.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b2s8d5

[labourRed]

Not seen that one - it was this on the BBC. They discuss the fight together.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b2s8d5

Saw that today. Both of 'em are class acts.

[Buzzo]

Not seen that one - it was this on the BBC. They discuss the fight together.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b2s8d5

Ah I’ve seen that also

There is a brilliant one on Netflix that came from the BBC also, the road to Klitschko that charts his rise whilst focusing on the fight with Vlad. It covers a lot of the same ground but with different interviews and talks a lot about his background.

[ame="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCrRdmg-XrA"]Preview: Anthony Joshua: The Road To Klitschko - BBC One - YouTube[/ame]

[Saveloy]

Watching the Shaggy one now. Klitschko comes across as a great bloke.