That was a huge fight for boxing in that the death of Paret led to all the US networks dropping boxing from their free to air broadcasts for the rest of the 1960s and into the 1970s.
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A lot's made of that, but ABC (who showed more boxing than anyone - to the point of over-saturation) continued with Fight of the Week for another two years after Griffith/Paret. Hell, Griffith lost his straps a year later live on ABC on the undercard of the Davey Moore/Sugar Ramos fight that cost Moore his life.
I think the move of boxing away from the networks, and especially ABC, was more of a cultural thing. The peak days of several live shows each week were having their death rattle, boxing was getting heavily politicised because of mob connections and Congress getting fruity over the violence, and it wasn't really to Baby Boomer tastes anyway. Plus, the heyday of a charismatic white heavyweight champ like Marciano, who was an easy sell to middle America, was over. HBO started picking up the Foreman/Frazier/Ali scraps. But Ali hadn't been live on ABC much anyway. The heavyweight fights were often sold on closed circuit, and ABC didn't air Clay/Liston until about two months after the event.
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Originally posted by Hollowman View PostA lot's made of that, but ABC (who showed more boxing than anyone - to the point of over-saturation) continued with Fight of the Week for another two years after Griffith/Paret. Hell, Griffith lost his straps a year later live on ABC on the undercard of the Davey Moore/Sugar Ramos fight that cost Moore his life.
I think the move of boxing away from the networks, and especially ABC, was more of a cultural thing. The peak days of several live shows each week were having their death rattle, boxing was getting heavily politicised because of mob connections and Congress getting fruity over the violence, and it wasn't really to Baby Boomer tastes anyway. Plus, the heyday of a charismatic white heavyweight champ like Marciano, who was an easy sell to middle America, was over. HBO started picking up the Foreman/Frazier/Ali scraps. But Ali hadn't been live on ABC much anyway. The heavyweight fights were often sold on closed circuit, and ABC didn't air Clay/Liston until about two months after the event.
That is all true, but what I was getting at was that it really helped the push towards the modern day set up with regards to PPVs, promoting etc.
It would still have happened, but the immediate (or pretty close to being so) removal of boxing from free to air tv certainly helped that process along and had an accelerating effect imo.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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What would have been interesting back then, would be if there had been the emergence of a white American born heavyweight of real top drawer quality during the FTA ban.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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"You need to learn to speak english"

Coming from Fury of all people.
He really is a low rent attention seeker. Hope Wlad grinds out a dull one sided win against him, and shows Fury up as being too average to do anything about the style of fighting he whinges so much about.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Eh? Beat the most dominant Heavyweight for a generation and he'll be derided? Yeah, your right.....the Joshua Jackson fight is where its at.Originally posted by Scratch View PostHe's in a no-win situation in this fight...gets beat and he'll get derided by all, win and he'll have beaten an aging, past-his best fighter.
He'd be better of fighting that young fella...is it Joshua Jackson? Score a victory in that and he might just get taken seriously.
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Originally posted by Scratch View PostHe's in a no-win situation in this fight...gets beat and he'll get derided by all, win and he'll have beaten an aging, past-his best fighter.
He'd be better of fighting that young fella...is it Joshua Jackson? Score a victory in that and he might just get taken seriously.
Wlad is indeed past his best, but he is still the best in the division and is a heavyweight who is where he is on merit.
Beating Wlad would in no way be seen as anything other than beating the best.
Being beat by Wlad on the other hand would normally not bring any sort of disgrace, but since Fury has been mouthing off so much about how Wlad is a fraud and how Wlad is too slow etc etc., it would become a stick to beat Fury with.
Fury has basically tried to make Wlad out to be some sort of bum, so now Fury has to back that up or go back to being the one who is actually the overhyped loud mouth with average talent.
Said it before in this thread, Fury is lucky to be fighting in this era of heavyweights. A heavyweight as limited as him would have been eaten alive in the 1990s and 1980s let alone had he been around in earlier decades.
If anything, Fury is this generation's Primo Carnera and as such he best be hoping that Wlad does not turn out to be his Max Baer.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Originally posted by spud_gun View PostBit harsh.
Wilder is more akin to Carnera than Fury.
Big, slow, tall, awkward, limited skills, average hitting power.
Pretty much how old timers described Carnera and sounds spot on more for Fury than Wilder.
Wilder (fighting on Saturday night/Sunday morning btw) is very much a hype job as well imho, but at least he has a little bit more to his all round skill set than Fury does.
Whilst talking about Wilder, I am quite curious as to how he will react when he gets in with someone that slips the right hand part of the one-two he tries a number of times per round each and every fight. There has got to be trainers out there that are looking at that and wishing they had a half decent heavy in their camp. I can see why Wlad has been vocal about Wilder. My thinking is that he is trying to goad Wilder into getting into the ring with him sooner rather than later.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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He's not lost in over a decade and he's fought pretty much everyone in the division bar his brother. To win though Fury is going to have to stop him which would be no mean feat.
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