Lance Armstrong

[RichC]

A lot of people from both the UCI and Le tour would have benefited from him winning and being the face of cycling

[RichC]

First page of google if you search for Dr Ferrari, unbelievable !!!!

http://www.53x12.com/do/show;jsessionid=B939BEB79226A530FF08FC2F1E8CBECA?page=front

[Captain Stu]

He knows what he is doing, he did then and he does now.

Definitely.

It's quite chilling actually, to have cheated so blatantly for so long and yet to still be so calm and collected in the face of the questions and abuse.

[RichC]

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/10/winners-of-the-last-15-tour-de-france/

This shows the top 5 places from each tour since 1998, only the 2012 tour doesn't contain a rider who's not been done for doping

[Captain Stu]

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/1...our-de-france/

This shows the top 5 places from each tour since 1998, only the 2012 tour doesn't contain a rider who's not been done for doping

Wow.



I said to a mate this morning - just imagine if Lance (or someone else) had the courage to blow the whistle on this **** rather than join in, they could well have still gone on to win multiple tours because so many of the other riders would have been caught up in it.

[EwarWoo]

only the 2012 tour doesn't contain a rider who's not been done for doping

yet

[RichC]

Lets hope they never do either

[RichC]

Wow.



I said to a mate this morning - just imagine if Lance (or someone else) had the courage to blow the whistle on this **** rather than join in, they could well have still gone on to win multiple tours because so many of the other riders would have been caught up in it.

Amazing isn't it, 3 clean winners since 1998 and only one entirely clean top 5 (wiggos victory).

They really need several years of cycling being clean

[Alex]

Wiggins came 3rd in 2009. It says 4th but he was promoted after the winner was kicked out.

[RichC]

I thought it was in 3rd for that, minor point though

[Alex]

I know. Side note on that, he could be promoted further still to 2nd if Armstrong is stripped of all finishes.

[Red_Polo]

Yeah it mentions those and Landis' stripped title at the bottom.

Have others actually been declared as having won it instead then? Or no winner?

[Darth Marty]

No winner apparently.

[Alex]

After watching this properly. I think he has done a pretty good job of framing this in a different way. He has defiantly shifted the blame. Not directly. But others are now being called into question. No one is questioning him as such now. But the people that allowed him to get away with it. I know they are as bad as him. It just sticks in the throat a little.

[Liverpel]

I know. Side note on that, he could be promoted further still to 2nd if Armstrong is stripped of all finishes.

He might win it still.