The Rugby Thread

[Buzzo]

That said, the massive amount of cry arsing around scrums is pretty reactionary and seems to be solely based on England going out. I have slightly bought into that

Every other team takes defeat on the chin, but when England go out, you have the likes of Dalalgio claiming England lost due to Ben O'Keefe.

The moment SA took a mark and chose to scrum, then marmalised the England scrum about 4 times in a row was the reason England lost.

[bacon]

This is an interesting discussion which will absolutely rile some. I do sometimes feel that given the subjective nature of a scrum pen then a shot at 3 points is too much reward. Maybe a FK would be more suited.

https://twitter.com/vmsportie/status...45445908361323

I’d support that. It does seem like scrums are being setup to win penalties over getting the ball out quickly… it’s a good idea

[danperkins]

Alleged racial slur by Mbonambi against Curry. Apparently called him a white cunt. Allegation like that could cause him to miss the final.

[Buzzo]

Edinburgh won a decent game yesterday - and it was really good to see Ben Healey who won MotM. Once we get our internationals back I am really excited about the season ahead.

[Buzzo]

Wet ball doesnt specifically suit teams from the NH - it’s a nightmare for us for example. But it does suit teams… such as the two who played last night.And specifically England who have the least developed game through 9-15.

This is an interesting discussion which will absolutely rile some. I do sometimes feel that given the subjective nature of a scrum pen then a shot at 3 points is too much reward. Maybe a FK would be more suited.

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[Doc_Piptorious]

Though that game says more about the Saffers than any game where they trounced another team.


England playing and spoiling at the highest level they were currently capable of.

SA being a bit off the boil.

The weather very much suiting a home nation team and still SA ground out a win.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Unlucky England, they executed perfectly and had their tactics right. We reverted back to 2019 tactics inexplicably and were bettered at our own game. Their back 3 were incredible under the high ball and we didn't do ourselves any favours. I don't think the first half could have gone any worse, Mbonambi and Kitshoff leaking pens.

I wasn't confident about this game despite everyone telling me how easy it would be. Anyway, Southern Hemisphere once again and probably the best final the game can serve up.

Northist

[Zapater]

Unlucky England, they executed perfectly and had their tactics right. We reverted back to 2019 tactics inexplicably and were bettered at our own game. Their back 3 were incredible under the high ball and we didn't do ourselves any favours. I don't think the first half could have gone any worse, Mbonambi and Kitshoff leaking pens.

I wasn't confident about this game despite everyone telling me how easy it would be. Anyway, Southern Hemisphere once again and probably the best final the game can serve up.

[Buzzo]

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[bacon]

Yeah - weather definitely came into it - pity that neither side really looked like scoring a try. Let’s hope it’s better next week for the final. .. NZ v SA on paper should be a cracker

[Buzzo]

Weather was a huge factor tonight, perfect conditions for England as it removed any sort of need to put ball through hands. But England were excellent in controlling that - I thought they might see it home. South Africa were surprisingly poor (tired) in the arm wrestle.

Bonn squad effectively won it for SA with second half scrum dominance.

I’m still not convinced England are that good - but in that sort of percentage game I’d never rule them out.

[Irishnev]

That was intense .. England really unfortunate but they lost it in the scrum 2nd half ..

Scrum pens are so hard to call - when it’s debatable on either side it can be a disaster. Once Sinkler came on then every scrum was a pen

[bacon]

That was intense .. England really unfortunate but they lost it in the scrum 2nd half ..

[Irishnev]

What a finish - SA with two massive games behind them vs a rested NZ now in the final

[Irishnev]

8 mins gone and about 15 box kicks already ffs