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    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    The WhatsApp stuff is typical of many lads I have no doubt but it doesn't excuse it and the NI legal system is a shambles. I by no means defend PJ and Co but equally can't throw them to the wolves given the fact they were deemed innocent in a court of law.

    Really difficult case and a disaster for all those involved.
    They weren't deemed guilty beyond reasonable doubt, which is the case with a serious crime. That doesn't mean i think they were guilty either.

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      Originally posted by labourRed View Post
      They weren't deemed guilty beyond reasonable doubt, which is the case with a serious crime. That doesn't mean i think they were guilty either.
      So I paid attention from afar and wasn't aware of that. There is usually no smoke without fire and having seen some of the details from WhatsApp (won't share) the 'lads' came across and the stereotypical rugby jock. I was in university with a number of high profile ex Irish players and some of the stories they had were mad. That was the days before real money came into the game so I can imagine it being even worse now.

      Usually these guys get protected from such things but they'll get over it and move on but not the same for that girl I bet. This is a life changer for her and she has now been deemed to be wrong in her accusations.....

      As I said earlier - am absolute disaster of a situation.

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        Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
        Good win for Scarlets last with another Irishman (Munster bound Tadhg Beirne) to the fore

        Massive game for Munster today at home to Toulon, Thomond will be pumped but with so many injuries it will be one of their best to win against the Toulon all stars. Toulon beat Clermont last week by almost 50 points whilst resting Nonu and more!

        Leinster vs Saracens also intriguing tomorrow but fancy Leinster to win it outright with so many Grand Slam winners in the team and O’Brien due back v soon.

        Clermont should make the semis with home advantage usually massive for the French sides.
        Great win for Scarlets, led by Scotland Captain John Barclay (moving to Edinburgh this summer). Scarlets are a really good side.

        Big game for Edinburgh in the Challenge cup tonight. The difference Richard Cockerill has made since coming in has been astounding. Edinburgh have been on a great run since October.
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          Good battle here Munster v Toulon.
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            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
            Good battle here Munster v Toulon.
            I’ve been slack with going to the games this year and couldn’t get a ticket to this one although I didn’t try too hard.....blessed to be ahead tbh but I’ll take it.

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              Toulon just creeping ahead. Next score critical.
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                What a try
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                  Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                  What a try
                  Sorry Buzzo but what a ****ING TRY

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                    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                    Sorry Buzzo but what a ****ING TRY
                    aye - some way to win a game.

                    Always good to see Chris Ashton beaten.
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                      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                      This is a life changer for her and she has now been deemed to be wrong in her accusations...
                      Not finding someone guilty doesn't mean their accuser has been found to have been wrong.
                      Like blood on iron

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                        Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                        Not finding someone guilty doesn't mean their accuser has been found to have been wrong.
                        My point came across badly - this girl clearly felt she was raped and had enough evidence to take it to court. A jury finding PJ and co not guilty in this case must be so hard for her to take, added to that her name ‘got out’ on social media so it will be something that hangs over her forever.

                        As I said a few times - a disaster all round.

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                          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                          aye - some way to win a game.

                          Always good to see Chris Ashton beaten.
                          Chris Ashton - have that you smug prick. Blessed to have won but on to the semis next

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                            Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                            My point came across badly - this girl clearly felt she was raped and had enough evidence to take it to court. A jury finding PJ and co not guilty in this case must be so hard for her to take, added to that her name ‘got out’ on social media so it will be something that hangs over her forever.

                            As I said a few times - a disaster all round.
                            That's messed up. Wtf is wrong with these people who publicise their name?
                            Like blood on iron

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                              Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                              That's messed up. Wtf is wrong with these people who publicise their name?
                              The legal system there doesn’t help in so far as the accused can be named and given the high profile case she was always going to be known. She did a number of days in the dock also so again she’d be known

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                                Racing v Munster
                                Leinster v Scarlets

                                Good for the Pro 14 and with a few players to come back hard to see beyond Leinster

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