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    Originally posted by Zapater View Post
    The last Lions tour in SA was brilliant, I really wanted to goto some games this time - I was unfortunately in Australia the last time. There's a ballot system for 'fairness sake', so nothing was guaranteed but it seems likely that I'm going to spend next year abroad which really pisses me off. Don't think you can beat an Ellis Park test and I'm not sure if I'll ever get the chance to see an SA - Lions game, especially when there is talk about scrapping the tours. I'd have even have gone to Loftus or Cape Town to see it. It's a shame Newlands Rugby Park is done because the vibe and atmosphere in CT is fantastic and that was a setting to match.
    I spent a fair bit of time in ZA with work in the past - been to The Loftus, Ellis Park and Kings Park.....

    The Loftus every time but I’ll caveat that by saying I only saw provincial rugby so maybe a test is different

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      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
      I spent a fair bit of time in ZA with work in the past - been to The Loftus, Ellis Park and Kings Park.....

      The Loftus every time but I’ll caveat that by saying I only saw provincial rugby so maybe a test is different
      It's slightly different for test matches. Ellis Park is too big for the Lions unfortunately, especially with SR attendances dwindling the last 5 years or so. It's also too hot in the sun, so people are hidden in the shade until the sun goes down. Was at the game where the Lions smashed he Crusaders in the SR quarter 3 or 4 years ago, and it was only about a third to half full... IIRC the semi was also there and didn't have a much better turn out. That team was mercurial, see Johan Ackermann did quite well at Gloucester too, surely a show in to be the next Boks coach.

      [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSemXNie4gE"]Super Rugby Quarter-final #3: Lions v Crusaders - YouTube[/ame]

      Loftus when the Bulls were good was great, although as mentioned previously; their fans and not being able to take drinks to your seat detracts. Remember once downing 3 500ml cans outside to make kick off, then trying not to piss my pants after a very broken seal only 20 min into the game! They've been poor the last few years, although Jake White is doing some interesting business there, so perhaps we'll see a strong Bulls team again soon.

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        Originally posted by Buzzo View Post


        There is definitely a separate rule book for Owen. Im intrigued to see what his ban is for that tackle as it was a shocker.

        Surely they need to get it sorted with a huge game for Saracens this weekend?


        He got the mandatory 10 games . . . halved for contrition etc and an otherwise good disciplinary record - amazing thought that may sound

        Funnily enough my #1 son played against the lad who he took out in a schools or representative game last year. I forget which, but I'm pretty sure they gave him worse treatment than Owen did

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          Originally posted by Zapater View Post
          The last Lions tour in SA was brilliant, I really wanted to goto some games this time - I was unfortunately in Australia the last time. There's a ballot system for 'fairness sake', so nothing was guaranteed but it seems likely that I'm going to spend next year abroad which really pisses me off. Don't think you can beat an Ellis Park test and I'm not sure if I'll ever get the chance to see an SA - Lions game, especially when there is talk about scrapping the tours. I'd have even have gone to Loftus or Cape Town to see it. It's a shame Newlands Rugby Park is done because the vibe and atmosphere in CT is fantastic and that was a setting to match.
          A mate has been trying to persuade me to go but unfortunately I have 100 other things to spend that kind of money on.

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            Thinking about that last tour reminded me about Heinrich Brüssow. What a fetcher! Possibly the most unBok player ever and Heynecke Meyer predictably ended his career. But **** me, what a player! Think him and Jacques Fourie really made the difference in in some key moments.

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              Originally posted by Zapater View Post
              It's slightly different for test matches. Ellis Park is too big for the Lions unfortunately, especially with SR attendances dwindling the last 5 years or so. It's also too hot in the sun, so people are hidden in the shade until the sun goes down. Was at the game where the Lions smashed he Crusaders in the SR quarter 3 or 4 years ago, and it was only about a third to half full... IIRC the semi was also there and didn't have a much better turn out. That team was mercurial, see Johan Ackermann did quite well at Gloucester too, surely a show in to be the next Boks coach.

              Super Rugby Quarter-final #3: Lions v Crusaders - YouTube

              Loftus when the Bulls were good was great, although as mentioned previously; their fans and not being able to take drinks to your seat detracts. Remember once downing 3 500ml cans outside to make kick off, then trying not to piss my pants after a very broken seal only 20 min into the game! They've been poor the last few years, although Jake White is doing some interesting business there, so perhaps we'll see a strong Bulls team again soon.
              Saw them thump the Brumbies years ago - Matfield, Botha, Steyn, Spies and co......had a fair few pre game in one of the sports bars on the ground and the broken seal is very much a thing

              I think they probably have the most tribal stereotypical Boer fans though

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                Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                Saw them thump the Brumbies years ago - Matfield, Botha, Steyn, Spies and co......had a fair few pre game in one of the sports bars on the ground and the broken seal is very much a thing

                I think they probably have the most tribal stereotypical Boer fans though
                That team could have been a Bok team. Habana, du Preez, Olivier, Kirchner, Basson, Hougaard, Rossouw, Steenkamp, Stegmann, Ndungane. A bit annoying that their timing wasn't staggered because they beat really good Sharks and Stormers teams in 2 finals reducing potential South African winners. Indeed, some of their fans are the most neanderthalic, brain dead and cringeworthy people who trawl the surface of earth. Weird mix of geriatrics, families and 20 year olds looking for fights. Just thinking about it has put that awful, generic, upbeat Afrikaans music that they play in my head.

                Yes, those pubs around the stadium are great, so cheap! Brandy special everywhere and frown when I order a Jameson. I think the one which I've spent quite a lot of time in is called Trademarks or something like that - young, hot girls - student types. They are easily impressed by well spoken English speakers, which is not that hard to comprehend. Although, some of them expect you to speak Afrikaans, which is far from ideal for me. There's also Hatfield around the corner which is debaucherous after games, has better ratios of girls and not just the rugby types but that's apparently died down a bit in recent years. Regardless, I'm probably too old for that now.

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                  Its a blessing and a curse to be able to get pissed before a Rugby International.

                  Our seats were 'row end'. Ideal for needing to get away for a piss myself. However. Absolutely ****e when sat next to a group of girls who are there for the day out, rather than the sport.

                  They'd show up 5 mins after kick off, so that would be getting up once. Then they'd be at the bogs within ten. Not in synch. Then another bar visit. It was annoying as **** having to get up and down that much.

                  Safe to say they were not well loved in our section

                  Feels like talking about another universe when thinking about being in a 7-k crowd.
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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                    Its a blessing and a curse to be able to get pissed before a Rugby International.

                    Our seats were 'row end'. Ideal for needing to get away for a piss myself. However. Absolutely ****e when sat next to a group of girls who are there for the day out, rather than the sport.

                    They'd show up 5 mins after kick off, so that would be getting up once. Then they'd be at the bogs within ten. Not in synch. Then another bar visit. It was annoying as **** having to get up and down that much.

                    Safe to say they were not well loved in our section

                    Feels like talking about another universe when thinking about being in a 7-k crowd.
                    I’m normally don’t drink before games due to the need to piss so much - typically 1 or 2 and then that’s it. Before the European Cup final in 2006 in Cardiff I was BLADDERED - 8 pints, surprised I got let into the game tbh. I had the most fantastic tickets - 3 rows behind the bench and close to the half way line. I must have made 5 leaks during the game and everyone I did Peter Clohessy was pissing beside me

                    Munster and Ireland legend and arguably the hardest ****er to play the game

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                      I try not to get too ******ed so I can concentrate on the game better, but yes, the pissing does come into the equation. Depending on who you're with it's sometimes mandatory.

                      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                      Our seats were 'row end'. Ideal for needing to get away for a piss myself. However. Absolutely ****e when sat next to a group of girls who are there for the day out, rather than the sport.

                      They'd show up 5 mins after kick off, so that would be getting up once. Then they'd be at the bogs within ten. Not in synch. Then another bar visit. It was annoying as **** having to get up and down that much.
                      Not trying to be funny, but isn't this roughly 90% of women at sports in general? Perhaps 50%+ of everyone at a cricket game, it winds me up in all honesty. People standing up in front of me when the bowler is in delivery stride is possibly the most frustrating thing in the world. Where has the etiquette gone?!

                      The girls you described are also unfortunately often the type who give you grief for spilling a bit of beer on them when celebrating a try. Wtf do they expect?!

                      Think I've said it before, but Sydney Football Stadium and Olympic Park are night and day when it comes to rugby and league. Super Rugby matches have attractive girls dressed up who are basically having their pre drinks before a night out while rugby league games have significantly rougher and less attractive girls who are actually there to watch the game. Mosquitos in and around Olympic Park are dire

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                        Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                        I’m normally don’t drink before games due to the need to piss so much - typically 1 or 2 and then that’s it. Before the European Cup final in 2006 in Cardiff I was BLADDERED - 8 pints, surprised I got let into the game tbh. I had the most fantastic tickets - 3 rows behind the bench and close to the half way line. I must have made 5 leaks during the game and everyone I did Peter Clohessy was pissing beside me

                        Munster and Ireland legend and arguably the hardest ****er to play the game
                        I was like that before the Scotland France footy match in Paris (McFadden goal). Drinking all day, drinking during massive 30,000 throng march to the stadium (French put tickets on general sale).

                        I lost all the guys I was with. I entered the stadium though the wrong gate. I had to have a steward take me to my seat.

                        I have very little recollection of the game, other than singing throughout, the goal.

                        The French loved us (the entire Tartan Army) though, and we got applauded out of the stadium
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                          Leinster struggling against Saracens so far.
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                            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                            Leinster struggling against Saracens so far.
                            They haven’t played a side as physical as this for a long time and they haven’t stepped up to the battle. Sarries demolishing then in the scrum, 5 penalties coughed up - Furlong a massive loss but Sarries missing even more.

                            Great game though

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                              Game on now Buzzo

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                                Yep. Set for a barnstorming last 15.

                                Seems like the wind has been a massive factor also.
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