Reaction to the Eduardo leg break

[el matador]

i dont think he will ever play again

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6729686517465616702&q=eduardo+leg+break&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Joe King]

Doesn't work

[sambirken]

although that doesnt work, i did see it on the link in the other forum and one of the still pictures appears to show his done coming out through his sock. i dont think he will play again for a really really long time.
one day everything is fine and the next your leg.. and career are in ruins. shit really

[Joe King]

His ankle looked like it came out its socket

[el matador]

Doesn't work

they took it off really quick.

http://www.4thegame.com/club/a.....njury.html

http://www.gamblog.co.uk/uploa.....736017.jpg

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/.....artin.html

i wish him well and a speedy recovery. He is going to need all the help and support he can get.

[el matador]

although that doesnt work, i did see it on the link in the other forum and one of the still pictures appears to show his done coming out through his sock. i dont think he will play again for a really really long time.
one day everything is fine and the next your leg.. and career are in ruins. shit really

dont know what to think of martin taylor. when you go in that high with your studs off the ground you know someone could get hurt.

They should throw the book at him for what he's done. At the end of the day its a sport and should be played so. If you want a scrap play sunday league instead.

[kop-al-74]

They have removed from youtube aswell.

[wishiwasascouser]

http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1203772672438_618.jpg
:jaw:

[sambirken]

they took it off really quick.

http://www.4thegame.com/club/a.....njury.html

http://www.gamblog.co.uk/uploa.....736017.jpg

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/.....artin.html

i wish him well and a speedy recovery. He is going to need all the help and support he can get.

its gone from all those places. madness. thats the first time ive ever seen that. you could watch cisse or larssons injurys all day long. its a conspiracy:source:

[el matador]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23022008/8/photo/arsenal-s-da-silva-eduardo-tackled-birmingham-city-s-martin.html

[livvy145]

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1811652

[Joe King]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23022008/8/photo/arsenal-s-da-silva-eduardo-tackled-birmingham-city-s-martin.html

I don't know what the picture shows. It looks like his foot has come out of the boot.

[Assassin]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23022008/8/photo/arsenal-s-da-silva-eduardo-tackled-birmingham-city-s-martin.html

FFS that looks bad, hopefully he will be able to play again

[sambirken]

I don't know what the picture shows. It looks like his foot has come out of the boot.

no way. thats bone. his foot is defo still in his boot

[wishiwasascouser]

Thats absolutely terrible.

[el matador]

FFS that looks bad, hopefully he will be able to play again

the clean breaks are easier to re-set. but when they are jagged like this looks like it is then they are much more difficult. I hope he will make it back.

[Joe King]

no way. thats bone. his foot is defo still in his boot

Now I see it. I've looked at his other foot and the NIKE sign. There is a massive crack above his ankle

[Dhav]

I've said in the other thread, but just wanted to say it again, i wish the lad a full and speedy recovery

[Joe King]

He's not only going to be a massive loss for Arsenal but also to Croatia.

Get well soon lad.

[-V-]

OH FFS, why do you people feel the need to watch it?? Everyone has made it clear that its fuckin horrible so whats the need to go hunting the net for working links to it?

His leg snapped. It was fucking disgusting, no need to analyse it :chunks:

[Gazmo1]

OH FFS, why do you people feel the need to watch it?? Everyone has made it clear that its fuckin horrible so whats the need to go hunting the net for working links to it?

His leg snapped. It was fucking disgusting, no need to analyse it :chunks:

The same reason why we all watched the beheadings in Iraq and strain to look at car accidents when we drive past.

Because we are all sick fuckers.

Really bad injury, I hope he can walk again.

[spud_gun]

The same reason why we all watched the beheadings in Iraq

:jaw:

We do?

I'm well aware of where i can see that sort of shit but i've got zero intention of actually viewing it.

Do people actually go out of their way to watch people being beheaded?

fucking sick if you do.

[Diego]

taylor should be banned for 10 games full stop, fucking insane tackle, studs up in the air...

stupid fuck...

[The_weatherman]

I know some don't like it but I'll post this link anyway, these pictures show how his ankle went clearly, hopefully this isn't as bad as it looks :shake:

http://www.fotbolti.net/fullStory.php?action=viewStory&id=58478

[Marky]

Horrrible, horrible injury.
Hope the lad makes a full recovery.

[The_weatherman]

taylor should be banned for 10 games full stop, fucking insane tackle, studs up in the air...

stupid fuck...

I hope they start to clamp down on these tackles in the future......

[AFII]

The problem is that you see tackles like this in almost every game without the ref sending the player off and instead gives him a yellow.

The difference this time was that Eduardo had his foot on the grass and not in the air. Shit refs that allows far to much means that you will get more stupid tackles like this.

I wish him a quick recovery.

[Tee]

Sickening injury - gutted for him. Hope and pray he has a speedy recovery.

[cumbriankop]

while it was a bad challenge i still think that wenger is out of order saying taylor should never play again for what he did.
i know if it was torres we'd be fuckin livid, but it was a red, but no worse than many challenges seen this year, some by arsenal players such as eboue who is horrible IMHO

it seemed clumsy rather than malicious, and i just hope that the lad gets better soon

[Shaggy]

Yeah Wenger will be embarrassed about that in the morning. Taylor has not set out to break the lad's leg. As sickening and as awful as it was, Wenger's comments are out of order.

[Jaymo]

the damage was caused by a horrendous tackle, but i think that with Eduardo having his foot planted firmly in the ground and because he is stretching, his body weight will be on that leg, his leg had nowhere to go, as the studs were keeping his foot firmly inplace.

i wish him a speedy recovery! and we hope its not too serious

[cumbriankop]

having just seen one o those pics, he is far too high with his studs, but you can't say it was worthy of banning him for life.
ben thatcher 'tackles' maybe, but it seemed more like an unfortunate outcome due to the reasons Jaymo gave, rather than a deliberate attempt to injure the lad

[DannyMan2006]

By looking at the pictures you can see that Taylor has gone an absoloute mile over the top of the ball.

Not saying he intended to injure as there are tackles all the time like that where there is no intention - Kuyts karate kick earlier in the seasn anyone?

But to answer AFII this has come at a time when Refs have been seriously clamping down on this sort of thing. Players have had some ridiculous red cards this season due to this. Maybe in hindsight it is clearer to see why.

[cumbriankop]

apparently there's photos of Taylor seeming to smirk after the challenge. went on an arsenal forum and a lad mentioned it on there

[DannyMan2006]

apparently there's photos of Taylor seeming to smirk after the challenge. went on an arsenal forum and a lad mentioned it on there

What if he did? So what. I doubt he knew he had broke the kids ankle at the time.

If on the other hand he did, then I'd be pissed if I was a gooner.

People always gloat when they leave a fellow player on the deck. I remember Haaland did it to Roy Keane. Couple of years later Keane took exception to that and finished his career. And people moaned at Keane and wondered why he did it.

I remember reading about Rio decking lil luis and Garcia saying that Rio had smirked and said "Welcome to the premiership". This stuff goes on all the time.

[Diego]

By looking at the pictures you can see that Taylor has gone an absoloute mile over the top of the ball.

Not saying he intended to injure as there are tackles all the time like that where there is no intention - Kuyts karate kick earlier in the seasn anyone?

But to answer AFII this has come at a time when Refs have been seriously clamping down on this sort of thing. Players have had some ridiculous red cards this season due to this. Maybe in hindsight it is clearer to see why.

i'll post this because it is the second before it all goes to shit. there where actually people on this site claiming it wasn't a red card :shake: if this isn't a red card then i don't know what is. and a fucking lengthy ban...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9660/35170700wtb1.jpg

[alunevans]

OH FFS, why do you people feel the need to watch it?? Everyone has made it clear that its fuckin horrible so whats the need to go hunting the net for working links to it?

His leg snapped. It was fucking disgusting, no need to analyse it :chunks:

i don't particularly want to see the break, but in light of wenger's challenge that taylor should never play football again i'd certainly like to see how bad the challenge was that caused it.

[Diego]

What if he did? So what. I doubt he knew he had broke the kids ankle at the time.

If on the other hand he did, then I'd be pissed if I was a gooner.

People always gloat when they leave a fellow player on the deck. I remember Haaland did it to Roy Keane. Couple of years later Keane took exception to that and finished his career. And people moaned at Keane and wondered why he did it.

I remember reading about Rio decking lil luis and Garcia saying that Rio had smirked and said "Welcome to the premiership". This stuff goes on all the time.

that wasn't even a tackle mate just look at it, that fuck keen fucked him up for nothing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuxKrnTP-k

[Darth Marty]

Looks an awfully high tackleand I have to agree with Wenger, tackles like that have no part in the game, the guy should be made to give his entire seasons wages to charity and lets see if he would do it again then eh.

Fucking hell, it looks horrendous.

[el matador]

i'll post this because it is the second before it all goes to shit. there where actually people on this site claiming it wasn't a red card :shake: if this isn't a red card then i don't know what is. and a fucking lengthy ban...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9660/35170700wtb1.jpg

I completely agree. His foot is nowhere near the ball, its way higher than it should be and his studs are showing. That picture just shows how late and how bad a challenge this really was.

He has to be punished. Eduardo may not play again. He may not even be able to walk again properly unless they can fix this. I know someone who had his leg broken like this and now his left leg is 1.5" shorter than the other one.

As for idiots like Thatcher - he's just a fucking thug. He cant play and all he is good for is taking people out. After seeing his elbow on mendes last year and seeing mendes shake on the floor I couldnt sleep for days. This kind of behaviour on the football pitch is just not right and they have to stamp it out.

Its got to start somewhere. It might as well be with Taylor.

[Dhav]

Foot is way too high there in those pics posted. I've kind of see-sawed in my opinion on this tackle, seeing it first on youtube I thought it was two footed, then seen the distance shots on Sky made it look simply very late and no more (ie definitely not two footed), now seeing that new pic Diego has posted, it is clear not only is he late, his foot is also way too high. I hope they throw the book at the shithouse. No room for challenges like that in the game.

I always feel if you make dangerous tackles that occasioning such a terrible injury, you should be out of the game for as long as your victim is.

[Ron_Mexico]

i'll post this because it is the second before it all goes to shit. there where actually people on this site claiming it wasn't a red card :shake: if this isn't a red card then i don't know what is. and a fucking lengthy ban...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9660/35170700wtb1.jpg

fucking disgrace, you don't tackle like that if you're going for the ball, he was out to injure the lad

taylor shouldn't be allowed to play again until eduardo does. no mark shite player taking out a really good player like eduardo, i fucking hate this shit

[Ron_Mexico]

I always feel if you make dangerous tackles that occasioning such a terrible injury, you should be out of the game for as long as your victim is.

i just said the same and totally agree, he shouldn't be allowed back until eduardo is back

complete disgrace. the scary thing is this could happen every single game, players are looking out for this type of tackle now and usually jump out of the way but eduardo wasn't so lucky

[livvy145]

Some closer coverage. It was a shithouse challenge that's for sure.

http://www.gamingaccess.com/index.php?watch_id=19685

[Johnny H]

Eduardo is the closest thing to Robbie Fowler I've seen - good luck lad.

[Ron_Mexico]

http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31785&start=2400

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=212948

seen some arsenal fans complaining about some of the responses on RAWK to the leg break, and rightfully so, some real classy people on there making us all look good :whatever:

[Dhav]

I hope they throw the book at the spineless Taylor. I doubt he'll get more than a three match ban though :sigh:

[Jennings]

I dont wanna see it.

That sort of shit makes me feel sick.

I mean I can only understand people wanting to watch the video in order to make up their own opinion the malice and intention of the tackler... but posting stills!!? Why would anyone wanna see that crap.

Take 'em down IMHO.

[Ron_Mexico]

I hope they throw the book at the spineless Taylor. I doubt he'll get more than a three match ban though :sigh:

:handshake:

he should get a long ban, make an example of the cunt. not even looking for the ball. it was early on so he was probably trying to get stuck into eduardo, put him off his game....mission accomplished you thick talentless twat

[Darth Marty]

some classless cunts on Rawk.....fucks sake

[Dhav]

:handshake:

he should get a long ban, make an example of the cunt. not even looking for the ball. it was early on so he was probably trying to get stuck into eduardo, put him off his game....mission accomplished you thick talentless twat

:handshake:

There's a pic of him smirking as he's getting up while Eduardo's lying in a heap on the ground :shake:

[alunevans]

I completely agree. His foot is nowhere near the ball, its way higher than it should be and his studs are showing. That picture just shows how late and how bad a challenge this really was.

He has to be punished. Eduardo may not play again. He may not even be able to walk again properly unless they can fix this. I know someone who had his leg broken like this and now his left leg is 1.5" shorter than the other one.

As for idiots like Thatcher - he's just a fucking thug. He cant play and all he is good for is taking people out. After seeing his elbow on mendes last year and seeing mendes shake on the floor I couldnt sleep for days. This kind of behaviour on the football pitch is just not right and they have to stamp it out.

Its got to start somewhere. It might as well be with Taylor.

how can you judge from a photo though?

[Diego]

Steve Bruce leaps to Taylor's defence
"But let me tell you Martin Taylor is the biggest, gentlest man. There will be nobody more upset and sickened than him.

"He is an absolute model professional who would never cause you any problem.

"With 'Big Tiny' I worked with him for a few years, and there is not a bad bone in his body.

"He would never, ever do anything malicious. He has mis-timed the tackle, and I've seen it. Some would say it is not even a yellow card."

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1768_3187341,00.html

is he fucking serious!

[Diego]

how can you judge from a photo though?

there is a link on here that show it from different angles, it's not much prettier ion video tbh...

[Ron_Mexico]

:handshake:

There's a pic of him smirking as he's getting up while Eduardo's lying in a heap on the ground :shake:

he won't be smirking when this is all his career is remembered for

[livvy145]

It's just been said that Wenger has retracted his comments.

[ronniedrew]

wenger just retracted his statement about taylor not playing again on motd

fair play to him

he made a mistake and apologiesed, big enough to do so

[jackjosh]

i dont think he will ever play again

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6729686517465616702&q=eduardo+leg+break&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

He will play again, as bad as it looks i have been through a much worse tackle that required on pitch traction to stop the limb from dying.The difference is i went into shock and thought it was the funniest thing in the world(I was wrong). I have seen far worse tackles, the one that did me i wouldn't even give as a foul.

[the rev leeroy brown]

remember players have come back from worse breaks to play at the highest level before. cisse was apparently minutes from having to have his leg amputated the first time he broke it. only the skills of the lfc and blackburn doctors/physio's saved his leg. and larsson when he was at celtic snapped his shin in two places and went on to play for barca.

eduardo will be back playing for arsenal in a year i've no doubt. hope his recovery goes well.

[Dhav]

remember players have come back from worse breaks to play at the highest level before. cisse was apparently minutes from having to have his leg amputated the first time he broke it. only the skills of the lfc and blackburn doctors/physio's saved his leg. and larsson when he was at celtic snapped his shin in two places and went on to play for barca.

eduardo will be back playing for arsenal in a year i've no doubt. hope his recovery goes well.

Some posters on the Arsenal forum reckon he'll be back in 6 months. Really hope that's the case. Good luck to the fella.

[Joey Jones]

:handshake:

There's a pic of him smirking as he's getting up while Eduardo's lying in a heap on the ground :shake:

You don't honestly think that he was smirking after seeing the state Eduardo was in? He looked more in a state of shock than anything else.

[Dhav]

You don't honestly think that he was smirking after seeing the state Eduardo was in? He looked more in a state of shock than anything else.

I'd certainly like to think not, but the pic on RAWK looks incriminating. Not sure if it's been photoshopped though.

[AFII]

Birmingham boss McLeish defends Taylor
tribalfooball.com - February 23, 2008

Birmingham City boss Alex McLeish immediately jumped to the defence of Martin Taylor after his tackle left Eduardo da Silva with a badly broken leg.

Taylor was shown a red card in the opening moments of the 2-2 draw at St Andrews after he caught the Arsenal striker, who apparently suffered a badly broken leg.

He said: "Any of you who know Martin Taylor through the years will know he is not a dirty player. It was just a case of Eduardo being too quick for him.

"His foot wasn't that high. It is on Eduardo's ankle for he was too quick for him.

"We are devastated for Eduardo and Martin is distraught - not about the sending-off but the injury to the player.

"I didn't think it was a sending-off challenge. I think he mistimed it and perhaps on another occasion you might say to Martin 'stand up and don't dive in'.

"But you see millions of tackles in the Premier League which look horrendous if you slow them down."

McLeish was delighted to pick up another point against the Gunners, and said: "I felt we could get something from the game and the players showed great spirit and commitment all over the pitch.

"We were very confident going in to half-time. The two goals they scored in the second half left us with an uphill battle but we threw caution to the wind in the last 10 minutes and got our reward."

[Joey Jones]

I'd certainly like to think not, but the pic on RAWK looks incriminating. Not sure if it's been photoshopped though.

I haven't seen that picture. Like I said, from the footage that I've seen Taylor looked shocked. And I'm sure he's distraught about Eduardo's injury.

I just hope he makes a full and quick recovery :handshake:

[Red_hot]

You don't honestly think that he was smirking after seeing the state Eduardo was in? He looked more in a state of shock than anything else.

He didn't look like he was smirking on MOTD. Just looked shocked. It's amazing how photographs can make something look like something it's not.

Looked fucking horrible anyway, I hate anything like that. Poor fella. :(

[Reece]

The more I think about the pictures, the more I worry for the guys career. I really hope he can make it back. :(

[tommyg]

I know some don't like it but I'll post this link anyway, these pictures show how his ankle went clearly, hopefully this isn't as bad as it looks :shake:

http://www.fotbolti.net/fullStory.php?action=viewStory&id=58478

The top picture of the tackle on that page is horrendous :jaw:

[Dhav]

I haven't seen that picture. Like I said, from the footage that I've seen Taylor looked shocked. And I'm sure he's distraught about Eduardo's injury.

I just hope he makes a full and quick recovery :handshake:

He didn't look like he was smirking on MOTD. Just looked shocked. It's amazing how photographs can make something look like something it's not.

Looked fucking horrible anyway, I hate anything like that. Poor fella. :(

Well, seeing him on the vid, he looks apologetic. But the still (and I agree they can tend to make things look worse) shows him smirking on his way up as he looks at Eduardo lying in a heap on the ground. If that's the case, I wonder if it was one of those "make your mark early in the game" type challenges. If it was, then he was extremely reckless and deserves to have the book thrown at him.

Really hope Eduardo makes a full and speedy recovery and comes back as good if not better than before.

[the rev leeroy brown]

taylor was genuinely upset and sickened by the injury to eduardo. i dont for a second beleive any player purposely tries to injure another. i do beleive that taylor was just trying to show eduardo he was in for a rough time in the game by putting in a hefty (but fair) tackle early in the game (i play football myself and have done in the past the same thing). he was probably proud of his tackle UNTILL he saw eduardo was hurt and then shock set in.

[Slinky Skills]

What a shame, poor bastard.

This happened to my brother when he was 16, he's never been able to able play again since it happened, totally shattered his ankle.

I hope he can still play.

[Maxiedge]

From a philosophical perspective, it's always staggering how things can change so much in just a split second...

I hope he can recover and play again.

[Ron_Mexico]

taylor was genuinely upset and sickened by the injury to eduardo. i dont for a second beleive any player purposely tries to injure another. i do beleive that taylor was just trying to show eduardo he was in for a rough time in the game by putting in a hefty (but fair) tackle early in the game (i play football myself and have done in the past the same thing). he was probably proud of his tackle UNTILL he saw eduardo was hurt and then shock set in.

ben thatcher, roy keane, the butcher of bilbao... don't be naive...rush of blood to the head can change humans to savage bastards

most managers tell you to hit em hard and hit em early to let them know they're in a game, so i agree that taylor was trying to send him a message early

but proud of his 'fair' tackle eh, fuckin hell mate. as a player you know immediately when you've done someone. he knew it immediately

[Radar]

Liverpool fans (don't know what was said on RAWK) should be so sympathetic of what happened to this lad. Poor lad is what 24 and to think this maybe the end of his career. We've been thru it with Baros, Cisse, and Riise's shot that hit Alan Smith. It makes you sick to your stomach when someone gets hurt like that. A good clean tackle that hurts someone for a bit and makes them think twice about a tackle later in a game but fuck me that looked nasty and malicious.

[Rhys]

Liverpool fans (don't know what was said on RAWK) should be so sympathetic of what happened to this lad. Poor lad is what 24 and to think this maybe the end of his career. We've been thru it with Baros, Cisse, and Riise's shot that hit Alan Smith. It makes you sick to your stomach when someone gets hurt like that. A good clean tackle that hurts someone for a bit and makes them think twice about a tackle later in a game but fuck me that looked nasty and malicious.

i agree. it wasnt a malicious tackle by taylor, but it still could be carrer threatening for eduardo, which is a massive shame as he looked like he was going to be some player for arsenal this season.

hope he heals well. :handshake:

[Diego]

Birmingham boss McLeish defends Taylor
tribalfooball.com - February 23, 2008

Birmingham City boss Alex McLeish immediately jumped to the defence of Martin Taylor after his tackle left Eduardo da Silva with a badly broken leg.

Taylor was shown a red card in the opening moments of the 2-2 draw at St Andrews after he caught the Arsenal striker, who apparently suffered a badly broken leg.

He said: "Any of you who know Martin Taylor through the years will know he is not a dirty player. It was just a case of Eduardo being too quick for him.

"His foot wasn't that high. It is on Eduardo's ankle for he was too quick for him.

"We are devastated for Eduardo and Martin is distraught - not about the sending-off but the injury to the player.

"I didn't think it was a sending-off challenge. I think he mistimed it and perhaps on another occasion you might say to Martin 'stand up and don't dive in'.

"But you see millions of tackles in the Premier League which look horrendous if you slow them down."

McLeish was delighted to pick up another point against the Gunners, and said: "I felt we could get something from the game and the players showed great spirit and commitment all over the pitch.

"We were very confident going in to half-time. The two goals they scored in the second half left us with an uphill battle but we threw caution to the wind in the last 10 minutes and got our reward."

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9660/35170700wtb1.jpg

:shake:

[marcus50bucks]

Foot is way too high there in those pics posted. I've kind of see-sawed in my opinion on this tackle, seeing it first on youtube I thought it was two footed, then seen the distance shots on Sky made it look simply very late and no more (ie definitely not two footed), now seeing that new pic Diego has posted, it is clear not only is he late, his foot is also way too high. I hope they throw the book at the shithouse. No room for challenges like that in the game.

I always feel if you make dangerous tackles that occasioning such a terrible injury, you should be out of the game for as long as your victim is.

Totally agree mate. I would ban the twat for the length of time Eduardo is out for. :handshake:

[kop-al-74]

Doesn't he only get the normal 3 game ban for the red?

Can the FA issue him with more?

[cumbriankop]

What if he did? So what. I doubt he knew he had broke the kids ankle at the time.

If on the other hand he did, then I'd be pissed if I was a gooner.

People always gloat when they leave a fellow player on the deck. I remember Haaland did it to Roy Keane. Couple of years later Keane took exception to that and finished his career. And people moaned at Keane and wondered why he did it.

I remember reading about Rio decking lil luis and Garcia saying that Rio had smirked and said "Welcome to the premiership". This stuff goes on all the time.

saying it happens all the time isn't really a valid excuse for possibly ending a career.
from what brum have put out he's devastated by whats hapened, but if you go purposefully into a challenge like that then you risk seriously hurting someone. if it was torres we'd all be gutted for liverpool, but i can still feel bad for the bloke

[pezzzer]

Doesn't he only get the normal 3 game ban for the red?

Can the FA issue him with more?

i think they can, didnt roy cunt keane get a red against halland and then recieve a further ban from the F.A

poor lad, i wish him all the best, but i dont think there was mallice in the challenge, eduardo was so quick i dont think Taylor expected his foot to be there but he shouldnt oof gone in studs up.

[AFII]

They can give him a longer ban than three games.

[tommyg]

'Eduardo, who will be 25 on Monday'

what a birthday present :S

[Assassin]

Yeah Wenger will be embarrassed about that in the morning. Taylor has not set out to break the lad's leg. As sickening and as awful as it was, Wenger's comments are out of order.

The Shagster was right

[Rhys]

says on beeb he has a double compound fracture.

jeez thats bad :jaw:

[Subby]

:jaw:

Do people actually go out of their way to watch people being beheaded?

fucking sick if you do.

...I have...curosity got the better of me...:grr: wish I hadn't though...was creepy as fuck :shake::grr:

[The Erectile Banana]

It was an awful injury.

On of the worst I've ever seen.

The reaction on the players faces reminded me of when David Busst broke his leg all those years ago.

I hope he can return to full fitness and resume his career as soon as possible.

[Liverpel]

i think they can, didnt roy cunt keane get a red against halland and then recieve a further ban from the F.A

poor lad, i wish him all the best, but i dont think there was mallice in the challenge, eduardo was so quick i dont think Taylor expected his foot to be there but he shouldnt oof gone in studs up.

I think Keane got baned only after admitting in his book that he intended hurting Haaland.

[Red Desire]

is this acceptable then?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2o1EyhMw7h4

[sambirken]

is this acceptable then?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2o1EyhMw7h4

er yes. he clearly jumped like a fish miles infront of the players with no intention of ploughing into him. bloody hell just cos he jumps up in the air doesnt mean anything.

[The Erectile Banana]

is this acceptable then?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2o1EyhMw7h4

Your point is?

There's no need to turn this into an Arsene Wenger bashing thread.

[Assassin]

how can you judge from a photo though?


Before Eduardos leg broke there are pictures of Taylors foot halfway up Eduardos shin, thats more than enough proof of a wreckless challenge

[el matador]

It was a stupid challenge - malicious or not it was just plain stupid. You just cant tackle people like that. Its all very well saying that he is a nice fella and that he isnt like that but the fact that his foot was so high up on eduardo's leg says everything.

Absolutely shocking and indefensible. I hope the lad makes a recovery and gets back to his level. It was a seriously bad injury. Arsenal fans need to realise that not every Liverpool fan is a decent person but most of are and genuinely care for all players and not just our own.

[disco]

I always feel if you make dangerous tackles that occasioning such a terrible injury, you should be out of the game for as long as your victim is.

Great minds think alike - I've thought the same before. :handshake:

[Ron_Mexico]

is this acceptable then?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2o1EyhMw7h4

whats that got to do with eduardo having his career threatened by a horrible tackle?

[Venton]

It was a stupid challenge - malicious or not it was just plain stupid. You just cant tackle people like that. Its all very well saying that he is a nice fella and that he isnt like that but the fact that his foot was so high up on eduardo's leg says everything.

Absolutely shocking and indefensible. I hope the lad makes a recovery and gets back to his level. It was a seriously bad injury. Arsenal fans need to realise that not every Liverpool fan is a decent person but most of are and genuinely care for all players and not just our own.

I agree with what you are saying completely. You will see challenges like that in every game and our own have been involved in a few but luckily the consequences are usually light. Unfortunately it takes things like this to really hammer home that they are unacceptable. It's a shame though to bring everything down on Taylor when so many players make the same kind of tackles as well though and get away with them through chance, he is an unlucky example.

[Red Desire]

Massive sympathy for Eduardo - have to see any player get an injury like that. That is a given.

But....

It could easily have been Nani last week with the challenge that Flamini aimed at him.

Stevie G has put some shockers in (Boateng a couple of years ago springs to mind.)

Essien has done the same.

Henry taking off 3-4 yards from the ball and going airborne studs first is reckless and can lead to broken legs.

Eboue puts in shocking tackles every time he takes to the pitch.

Wenger needs to put his own house in order before trying to run all of English football.

[Harv]

shocking break for the lad. Heres hoping he makes a full recovery.

Happened only minutes after i said to a mate that this lad will be top scorer in the Euro's :shake:

he'll be back though.

If Henrick Larsson came back after his break, Eduardo can. :handshake:

[Chiccada]

What if he did? So what. I doubt he knew he had broke the kids ankle at the time.

If on the other hand he did, then I'd be pissed if I was a gooner.

People always gloat when they leave a fellow player on the deck. I remember Haaland did it to Roy Keane. Couple of years later Keane took exception to that and finished his career. And people moaned at Keane and wondered why he did it.

I remember reading about Rio decking lil luis and Garcia saying that Rio had smirked and said "Welcome to the premiership". This stuff goes on all the time.

Haaland didnt do a thing to Keane. It all started when Keane took a swing at Haaland and ruptured his cruciate ligment in the process. Haaland, whilst Keane was screaming in pain, had a go at him saying "serves you f*cking right". Then a while later was when Keane done Haaland in what in can only be decscribed as assault.

As for Eduardo, I hope the lad makes a quick recovery and can get back to playing soon as the chap really is a joy to watch and a credit to the game.

[Parm]

hope the lad recovers asap, terrible injury

[BFG]

dont know what to think of martin taylor. when you go in that high with your studs off the ground you know someone could get hurt.

They should throw the book at him for what he's done. At the end of the day its a sport and should be played so. If you want a scrap play sunday league instead.


Don't agree with this at all. He went to play the ball and Eduardo got there first and in the process moved toward Taylor as he'd dived in for the ball. If Eduardo wasn't so quick then Taylor's foot would have been down on the ground by the time it got to where the ball was when he committed to the tackle.

Desperately unlucky for all concened IMO but I know that I for one make tackles like that every weekend but just don't play against people so quick that something like that could happen. It was just massively bad luck that everything happened as it did but Taylor was definately going for the ball.

The red card and a 3 game ban are right as he made contact with Eduardo's lower leg but talk of him 'scrapping' and 10 game bans are absurd IMO. He really wasn't trying to do anything but win the ball.

[BFG]

i'll post this because it is the second before it all goes to shit. there where actually people on this site claiming it wasn't a red card :shake: if this isn't a red card then i don't know what is. and a fucking lengthy ban...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9660/35170700wtb1.jpg


You can't make a judgement of the tackle based on a still photo alone. Video proves conclusively that he was going for the ball IMO and Eduardo moved toward him after he committed to the tackle. Awful combination of circumstances and terrible luck. Hopefully he'll be back.

[Shaggy]

It's just been said that Wenger has retracted his comments.

As I said earlier in the thread, it was obvious he would. Those comments were totally disgraceful, but forgiveable under the circumstances.

I can't believe the number of people judging Taylor based on photographs. Stills ALWAYS make any challenge look far worse than they were in reality.

[Kenneth]

You can't make a judgement of the tackle based on a still photo alone. Video proves conclusively that he was going for the ball IMO and Eduardo moved toward him after he committed to the tackle. Awful combination of circumstances and terrible luck. Hopefully he'll be back.
The photo doesn't tell the story, and slow-mo doesn't either. At full speed it is clear to me that it was a mistimed tackle. If he wanted to 'do him', he'd have picked a different occasion, where eduardo was a full pelt, or when it was a head to head sprint for a loose ball.

[Joey Jones]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7263029.stm

Arsenal hope Croatian striker Eduardo will make a full recovery from his horrific leg break in nine months.

The 25-year-old suffered a fractured left fibula and an open dislocation of his left ankle in a challenge with Birmingham's Martin Taylor on Saturday.

Eduardo will have his leg in plaster for the next six to eight weeks before beginning a rehabilitation programme.

Arsenal say the Croatia international, signed for £7.5m in 2007, should be running again in six months.

After sustaining the injury Eduardo was taken to Selly Oak Hospital in Birmingham and underwent surgery on Saturday night before being transferred to a London-based hospital on Sunday afternoon.

The incident occurred just minutes in to Arsenal's 2-2 at St Andrew's and Birmingham manager Alex McLeish admits it left Taylor horrified.

McLeish does not believe Taylor's straight red card was warranted but says the 28-year-old defender is mentally shattered by the episode.

When asked if he was surprised by the sending off, the Scot replied: "I was
and the fact that (some commentators were surprised at the red card) tells the story itself - it was seen as just another normal tackle in a game of football where there is contact.

"Having played the game at a high level for 20 years, I used to go in for these challenges myself and now when I watch a game of football I wince at some of the challenges.

"But I never even gave that (Taylor's) challenge a moment's thought.

"Martin was horrified. There certainly wasn't a big protest over the red card from him but he's seen the damage that was done to Eduardo and I could see it in his face.

"Even if the referee had given him a yellow card I don't know if he could have played on any way."

"We've had to rally round Martin Taylor because he is mentally shattered by the whole experience."

In the immediate aftermath Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger claimed the only way some opposition teams know how to stop his side is by kicking them.

McLeish said: "I don't think we do have a physical team as such.

"I did say to the players, 'there is no point running beside the Arsenal players and thinking you're doing a good job. You've got to make sure try and win the ball and make tackles'."

Former Rangers and Scotland boss McLeish recalls the way ex-Celtic striker Henrik Larsson came back from a horrific leg break in 1999 and is hopeful for Eduardo.

"I've seen these challenges before, I've seen some of these injuries before," he said.

"Henrik Larsson received a bad one a few years ago in Lyon while playing for Celtic and when I saw Eduardo I could think it was something similar.

"The technology and medical treatments nowadays meant Henrik Larsson's was a success and he came back to show he was a world class player.

"Eduardo's a world class player and he's definitely in the right hands and I'm sure he will come back."

Former Coventry defender David Busst is confident Eduardo will play again if there are no complications in his recovery.

Busst's career was ended by a similar injury to Eduardo's which he suffered against Manchester United in 1996.

"If there's no complications, I'm sure he will be back playing again," Busst told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"It wasn't the break that stopped me playing again but the infections I caught after that.

"I suffered a double compound fracture of the tibia and fibula and had 20 operations on my right leg, with 10 operations in the first 12 days.

"I'd like to reassure Eduardo and tell him not to let people compare his injury to mine because I did have to give up.

"It was the infection, muscle and tissue damage that stopped me from playing again.

"They will have closed up where the bone had come out from the skin and pinned the bones.

"If they have done all that without any infection then he will be back playing when the bone has healed in about 12 months."

[simey85]

Hopefully he will be back he was starting to adapt to the league!