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    #91
    It was a stupid challenge - malicious or not it was just plain stupid. You just cant tackle people like that. Its all very well saying that he is a nice fella and that he isnt like that but the fact that his foot was so high up on eduardo's leg says everything.

    Absolutely shocking and indefensible. I hope the lad makes a recovery and gets back to his level. It was a seriously bad injury. Arsenal fans need to realise that not every Liverpool fan is a decent person but most of are and genuinely care for all players and not just our own.
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      #92
      Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post

      I always feel if you make dangerous tackles that occasioning such a terrible injury, you should be out of the game for as long as your victim is.
      Great minds think alike - I've thought the same before.
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        #93
        Originally posted by Red Desire View Post
        whats that got to do with eduardo having his career threatened by a horrible tackle?

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          #94
          Originally posted by el matador View Post
          It was a stupid challenge - malicious or not it was just plain stupid. You just cant tackle people like that. Its all very well saying that he is a nice fella and that he isnt like that but the fact that his foot was so high up on eduardo's leg says everything.

          Absolutely shocking and indefensible. I hope the lad makes a recovery and gets back to his level. It was a seriously bad injury. Arsenal fans need to realise that not every Liverpool fan is a decent person but most of are and genuinely care for all players and not just our own.
          I agree with what you are saying completely. You will see challenges like that in every game and our own have been involved in a few but luckily the consequences are usually light. Unfortunately it takes things like this to really hammer home that they are unacceptable. It's a shame though to bring everything down on Taylor when so many players make the same kind of tackles as well though and get away with them through chance, he is an unlucky example.
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            #95
            Massive sympathy for Eduardo - have to see any player get an injury like that. That is a given.

            But....

            It could easily have been Nani last week with the challenge that Flamini aimed at him.

            Stevie G has put some shockers in (Boateng a couple of years ago springs to mind.)

            Essien has done the same.

            Henry taking off 3-4 yards from the ball and going airborne studs first is reckless and can lead to broken legs.

            Eboue puts in shocking tackles every time he takes to the pitch.

            Wenger needs to put his own house in order before trying to run all of English football.
            Last edited by Red Desire; 24-02-08, 10:03 PM.
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              #96
              shocking break for the lad. Heres hoping he makes a full recovery.

              Happened only minutes after i said to a mate that this lad will be top scorer in the Euro's

              he'll be back though.

              If Henrick Larsson came back after his break, Eduardo can.
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                #97
                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                What if he did? So what. I doubt he knew he had broke the kids ankle at the time.

                If on the other hand he did, then I'd be pissed if I was a gooner.

                People always gloat when they leave a fellow player on the deck. I remember Haaland did it to Roy Keane. Couple of years later Keane took exception to that and finished his career. And people moaned at Keane and wondered why he did it.

                I remember reading about Rio decking lil luis and Garcia saying that Rio had smirked and said "Welcome to the premiership". This stuff goes on all the time.
                Haaland didnt do a thing to Keane. It all started when Keane took a swing at Haaland and ruptured his cruciate ligment in the process. Haaland, whilst Keane was screaming in pain, had a go at him saying "serves you f*cking right". Then a while later was when Keane done Haaland in what in can only be decscribed as assault.

                As for Eduardo, I hope the lad makes a quick recovery and can get back to playing soon as the chap really is a joy to watch and a credit to the game.
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                  #98
                  hope the lad recovers asap, terrible injury


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                    #99
                    Originally posted by el matador View Post
                    dont know what to think of martin taylor. when you go in that high with your studs off the ground you know someone could get hurt.

                    They should throw the book at him for what he's done. At the end of the day its a sport and should be played so. If you want a scrap play sunday league instead.

                    Don't agree with this at all. He went to play the ball and Eduardo got there first and in the process moved toward Taylor as he'd dived in for the ball. If Eduardo wasn't so quick then Taylor's foot would have been down on the ground by the time it got to where the ball was when he committed to the tackle.

                    Desperately unlucky for all concened IMO but I know that I for one make tackles like that every weekend but just don't play against people so quick that something like that could happen. It was just massively bad luck that everything happened as it did but Taylor was definately going for the ball.

                    The red card and a 3 game ban are right as he made contact with Eduardo's lower leg but talk of him 'scrapping' and 10 game bans are absurd IMO. He really wasn't trying to do anything but win the ball.
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                      Originally posted by Diego View Post
                      i'll post this because it is the second before it all goes to ****. there where actually people on this site claiming it wasn't a red card if this isn't a red card then i don't know what is. and a ****ing lengthy ban...


                      You can't make a judgement of the tackle based on a still photo alone. Video proves conclusively that he was going for the ball IMO and Eduardo moved toward him after he committed to the tackle. Awful combination of circumstances and terrible luck. Hopefully he'll be back.
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                        Originally posted by livvy145 View Post
                        It's just been said that Wenger has retracted his comments.
                        As I said earlier in the thread, it was obvious he would. Those comments were totally disgraceful, but forgiveable under the circumstances.

                        I can't believe the number of people judging Taylor based on photographs. Stills ALWAYS make any challenge look far worse than they were in reality.
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                          Originally posted by BFG View Post
                          You can't make a judgement of the tackle based on a still photo alone. Video proves conclusively that he was going for the ball IMO and Eduardo moved toward him after he committed to the tackle. Awful combination of circumstances and terrible luck. Hopefully he'll be back.
                          The photo doesn't tell the story, and slow-mo doesn't either. At full speed it is clear to me that it was a mistimed tackle. If he wanted to 'do him', he'd have picked a different occasion, where eduardo was a full pelt, or when it was a head to head sprint for a loose ball.
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                            Eduardo faces nine month lay-off



                            Arsenal hope Croatian striker Eduardo will make a full recovery from his horrific leg break in nine months.

                            The 25-year-old suffered a fractured left fibula and an open dislocation of his left ankle in a challenge with Birmingham's Martin Taylor on Saturday.

                            Eduardo will have his leg in plaster for the next six to eight weeks before beginning a rehabilitation programme.

                            Arsenal say the Croatia international, signed for £7.5m in 2007, should be running again in six months.

                            After sustaining the injury Eduardo was taken to Selly Oak Hospital in Birmingham and underwent surgery on Saturday night before being transferred to a London-based hospital on Sunday afternoon.

                            The incident occurred just minutes in to Arsenal's 2-2 at St Andrew's and Birmingham manager Alex McLeish admits it left Taylor horrified.

                            McLeish does not believe Taylor's straight red card was warranted but says the 28-year-old defender is mentally shattered by the episode.

                            When asked if he was surprised by the sending off, the Scot replied: "I was
                            and the fact that (some commentators were surprised at the red card) tells the story itself - it was seen as just another normal tackle in a game of football where there is contact.

                            "Having played the game at a high level for 20 years, I used to go in for these challenges myself and now when I watch a game of football I wince at some of the challenges.

                            "But I never even gave that (Taylor's) challenge a moment's thought.

                            "Martin was horrified. There certainly wasn't a big protest over the red card from him but he's seen the damage that was done to Eduardo and I could see it in his face.

                            "Even if the referee had given him a yellow card I don't know if he could have played on any way."

                            "We've had to rally round Martin Taylor because he is mentally shattered by the whole experience."

                            In the immediate aftermath Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger claimed the only way some opposition teams know how to stop his side is by kicking them.

                            McLeish said: "I don't think we do have a physical team as such.

                            "I did say to the players, 'there is no point running beside the Arsenal players and thinking you're doing a good job. You've got to make sure try and win the ball and make tackles'."

                            Former Rangers and Scotland boss McLeish recalls the way ex-Celtic striker Henrik Larsson came back from a horrific leg break in 1999 and is hopeful for Eduardo.

                            "I've seen these challenges before, I've seen some of these injuries before," he said.

                            "Henrik Larsson received a bad one a few years ago in Lyon while playing for Celtic and when I saw Eduardo I could think it was something similar.

                            "The technology and medical treatments nowadays meant Henrik Larsson's was a success and he came back to show he was a world class player.

                            "Eduardo's a world class player and he's definitely in the right hands and I'm sure he will come back."

                            Former Coventry defender David Busst is confident Eduardo will play again if there are no complications in his recovery.

                            Busst's career was ended by a similar injury to Eduardo's which he suffered against Manchester United in 1996.

                            "If there's no complications, I'm sure he will be back playing again," Busst told BBC Radio 5 Live.

                            "It wasn't the break that stopped me playing again but the infections I caught after that.

                            "I suffered a double compound fracture of the tibia and fibula and had 20 operations on my right leg, with 10 operations in the first 12 days.

                            "I'd like to reassure Eduardo and tell him not to let people compare his injury to mine because I did have to give up.

                            "It was the infection, muscle and tissue damage that stopped me from playing again.

                            "They will have closed up where the bone had come out from the skin and pinned the bones.

                            "If they have done all that without any infection then he will be back playing when the bone has healed in about 12 months."

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                              Hopefully he will be back he was starting to adapt to the league!
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