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    #46
    Originally posted by BFG View Post
    They turn up when I buy tickets mate.
    bastids
    "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

    "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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      #47
      Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
      How could anyone've thought Harvey meant anything other than African footballers? You'd have to be a bit dense to think he was talking about Africans per sé.
      Hold the **** up now. I don't personally know Harvery and his comments seemed very straight forward with the way it was presented, i.e. racist/bigoted whatever. I have no idea is Harvey is racist, but from his previous posts I would say he is not racist.

      Now he has since explained himself and has basically said he's talking about African footballers and I still don't agree with that and have a problem with it. I don't see how African footballers are anymore moody, greedy or less trust worthy than any other footballer from any other continent.

      I don't recal having any disagreement with Harvery and I always respect what he has to say, but in my view on this occassion the original comment was racist and his follow up is bull**** and prejudiced. I call it how I see it. If the rest of you want to say it's political correctness gone mad then that's up to you, but I would question your judgement.

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        #48
        Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
        Hold the **** up now. I don't personally know Harvery and his comments seemed very straight forward with the way it was presented, i.e. racist/bigoted whatever. I have no idea is Harvey is racist, but from his previous posts I would say he is not racist.

        Now he has since explained himself and has basically said he's talking about African footballers and I still don't agree with that and have a problem with it. I don't see how African footballers are anymore moody, greedy or less trust worthy than any other footballer from any other continent.

        I don't recal having any disagreement with Harvery and I always respect what he has to say, but in my view on this occassion the original comment was racist and his follow up is bull**** and prejudiced. I call it how I see it. If the rest of you want to say it's political correctness gone mad then that's up to you, but I would question your judgement.

        Look mate, i can see why you took offence to the original post. It was terrible wording on my part

        But i stand by my thoughts on African players being moody and or greedy. Its nothing to do with the colour of their skin, or where they are from. Its just an observation. Eto'o, Drogba, Adebayor, Diouf etc etc. We have also had terrible luck with the quality of our African players, they have largely been ****e.

        French players are moody also, black, white and Muslim. Just like Argies and Brazilians can be dirty cynical little *******s. Spanish/ Portuguese players dive about, and can also be moody ****s. Theirs negatives for each countries players IMO.

        In this context though we were talking about an African player, so thats why i singled them out.

        Hope that sort of clears it up
        "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

        "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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          #49
          Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
          Look mate, i can see why you took offence to the original post. It was terrible wording on my part

          But i stand by my thoughts on African players being moody and or greedy. Its nothing to do with the colour of their skin, or where they are from. Its just an observation. Eto'o, Drogba, Adebayor, Diouf etc etc. We have also had terrible luck with the quality of our African players, they have largely been ****e.

          French players are moody also, black, white and Muslim. Just like Argies and Brazilians can be dirty cynical little *******s. Spanish/ Portuguese players dive about, and can also be moody ****s. Theirs negatives for each countries players IMO.

          In this context though we were talking about an African player, so thats why i singled them out.

          Hope that sort of clears it up
          Harvey, WTF has religion got to do with anything?? I am not stirring, honest, but adding the Muslim bit seems a bit out of order IMHO.
          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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            #50
            Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
            Hold the **** up now. I don't personally know Harvery and his comments seemed very straight forward with the way it was presented, i.e. racist/bigoted whatever. I have no idea is Harvey is racist, but from his previous posts I would say he is not racist.

            Now he has since explained himself and has basically said he's talking about African footballers and I still don't agree with that and have a problem with it. I don't see how African footballers are anymore moody, greedy or less trust worthy than any other footballer from any other continent.

            I don't recal having any disagreement with Harvery and I always respect what he has to say, but in my view on this occassion the original comment was racist and his follow up is bull**** and prejudiced. I call it how I see it. If the rest of you want to say it's political correctness gone mad then that's up to you, but I would question your judgement.
            Okay...your call. I disagree. While I'm not sure I agree with Harv I know what he meant - and he certainly wasn't implying all Africans are not trustworthy.

            I think it's fair to say, at this relatively early stage of their development on the world stage, there are still problems with the mentality/attitude of some African players.
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              #51
              Originally posted by looprevil View Post
              Harvey, WTF has religion got to do with anything?? I am not stirring, honest, but adding the Muslim bit seems a bit out of order IMHO.
              oh FFS. This is like a bloody Partridge sketch

              France has many Muslims does it not? Im just showing that its a diverse country, and they are still moody players be it white, black or even Muslim. Its not the race/religion, its the country

              chill mate
              "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

              "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                #52
                Originally posted by looprevil View Post
                Harvey, WTF has religion got to do with anything?? I am not stirring, honest, but adding the Muslim bit seems a bit out of order IMHO.
                You're really touchy when someone touches about that mate. He never meant it this way, it's been well documented in this thread, so please don't add to it.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                  Okay...your call. I disagree. While I'm not sure I agree with Harv I know what he meant - and he certainly wasn't implying all Africans are not trustworthy.

                  I think it's fair to say, at this relatively early stage of their development on the world stage, there are still problems with the mentality/attitude of some African players.
                  fence sitter
                  "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                  "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
                    oh FFS. This is like a bloody Partridge sketch

                    France has many Muslims does it not? Im just showing that its a diverse country, and they are still moody players be it white, black or even Muslim. Its not the race/religion, its the country

                    chill mate
                    I know, but it just did not seem relevant, sorry. I am chilling....
                    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                      #55
                      Are we all agreed that Italians are cheating *******s? I just want to know where we stand...

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
                        Look mate, i can see why you took offence to the original post. It was terrible wording on my part

                        But i stand by my thoughts on African players being moody and or greedy. Its nothing to do with the colour of their skin, or where they are from. Its just an observation. Eto'o, Drogba, Adebayor, Diouf etc etc. We have also had terrible luck with the quality of our African players, they have largely been ****e.

                        French players are moody also, black, white and Muslim. Just like Argies and Brazilians can be dirty cynical little *******s. Spanish/ Portuguese players dive about, and can also be moody ****s. Theirs negatives for each countries players IMO.

                        In this context though we were talking about an African player, so thats why i singled them out.

                        Hope that sort of clears it up
                        I know where you're coming from on this, I just don't with the stereotyping.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                          Okay...your call. I disagree. While I'm not sure I agree with Harv I know what he meant - and he certainly wasn't implying all Africans are not trustworthy.

                          I think it's fair to say, at this relatively early stage of their development on the world stage, there are still problems with the mentality/attitude of some African players.
                          What about Lee Bowyer, Paul Merson, Ashley Cole etc are they Africans or just scumbags?

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                            Okay...your call. I disagree. While I'm not sure I agree with Harv I know what he meant - and he certainly wasn't implying all Africans are not trustworthy.

                            I think it's fair to say, at this relatively early stage of their development on the world stage, there are still problems with the mentality/attitude of some African players.
                            What? Are you implying African players have attitude problems whilst players from other continents don't? Thats a sweeping generalisation if I didn't see one.

                            One player who was African who didn't have an attitude problem I felt was Momo Sissoko. Had a brilliant start to his career, got injured, replaced by the brilliant Mascherano, didn't go moody and waited for his opportunity, knew he was playing crap and agreed to move to Juve.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                              What about Lee Bowyer, Paul Merson, Ashley Cole etc are they Africans or just scumbags?
                              Just scumbags.

                              Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                              What? Are you implying African players have attitude problems whilst players from other continents don't? Thats a sweeping generalisation if I didn't see one.
                              No.
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                                #60
                                Australians are such ****s

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