Just a big coincidence

[SK]

Exactly, said this last night, i'm getting pissed off with people comapring our free kick to their ****in pen, free kicks are given wrongly many many times, that's because a free kick isn't deemed to be a gimme as far scoring a goal go's, not as much importance placed on them you could say.

BUT A PENALTY, well imo a penalty should NEVER be given lightly, all due consideration should be given to awarding a penalty because of the importance and probable resulting 'GOAL'.

I wont bother doing it because i know what the result will be, but check out how many goals scored to FREE KICKS given against goals scored to penalties given, that's why you can never compare a poor Penalty decision to a poor free kick decision, and that, funnily enough, is why a PENALTY is called a PENALTY, because the offending side usually ends up PAYING A PENALTY, whilst with a FREE KICK, well, you just get a free kick and usually don't end up paying such a huge....well...penalty.

There, sorted.

agreed

just no need for two threads on the same topic

[Vermilion]

agreed

just no need for two threads on the same topic

ok. But this one is 'Craigs' special 'ANTI SCUM' Thread, and i just felt the need to contribute.

[SK]

ok. But this one is 'Craigs' special 'ANTI SCUM' Thread, and i just felt the need to contribute.

[Milan_Milan]

We have had more pennas this season than anyone else haven't we?
The opposition have finished with 10 men against us no less than 11 times.

These things happen. I have no doubt Webb et al are intimidated at Old Toilet and by Ferguson, but they aren't cheating, there are plenty of decisions they don't get (wembley).


Now i cant remember the Manc's games well, but we have benefited this season from mistakes and correct decisions. The Manc's ended up with 10 men and conceded a penalty against us, a cheating ref would have yellowed vidic. Lampard was sent off against us at Anfield. Mascher dived and we scored from the resultant free kick yesterday when we were playing poorly. It happens

The biggest question is, why did Spurs absolutely implode at 2-1? It was a pathetic embarrassing display and may have cost us the title. That or us drawing too many games.

[Shaggy]

We have had more pennas this season than anyone else haven't we?
The opposition have finished with 10 men against us no less than 11 times.

I don't understand the relevance of this. You go through every single red card and every single ****ing one was justified. How this is an example of us being lucky is a mystery to me.

Granted we've had one or two soft pens - but soft pens and the disgrace we saw yesterday are poles apart.

[Milan_Milan]

I don't understand the relevance of this. You go through every single red card and every single ****ing one was justified. How this is an example of us being lucky is a mystery to me.

Granted we've had one or two soft pens - but soft pens and the disgrace we saw yesterday are poles apart.

Lampard's wasn't justified. And at a time we were struggling to win. It gave us the chance to open up Chelsea and we did thanks to Nando.

I have no doubt that if that had been a Spurs player at 2-0 Webb MIGHT have waved it away, who knows? He gave it. Does it mean they're bribing referees? Hardly.

A lad (not friend ) i know who goes there was complaining that they have been turned down for a lot of penalties this year, but i don't suppose we hear about them.

If we'd have won more games we'd have won the league. That is what will happen next year and everyone will have forgotten about Spurs' horrendous capitulation yesterday.

[G]

Slur goes mad at the semi about a non given penalty which lets be honest was a stone waller.

Then Ferdinand comes out after the game and say's ref's are afraid to give them pen's,especially at home.

Hey presto they get a shocking one at home 6 days later.

Coincidence?

I think not

[Milan_Milan]

We've won 21 games this year. They win their game in hand, they've won 25. Coincidence? Hey, that's joincidence with a C.

[Leyton388]

You know what **** manchester united and **** fergie. Liverpool fc are playing the best football this season i have seen since 88/89. We have seen Rafa's Machine this season which he had a valencia. a new Right winger and partner for Torres this summer and next season will be even better. How ****ing funny will it be if we signs Tevez in the summer who imo would be perfect to play with torres and lets face it Mash will have a word with him.

[Roboklopp]

We've won 21 games this year. They win their game in hand, they've won 25. Coincidence? Hey, that's joincidence with a C.

25 is mainly due to **** refereeing decisions mind.

[DannyMan2006]

Mascher's free kick win today was far from a good decision. Alonso scored. **** happens. Sometimes good, sometimes bad.

I have thought for some time that the disallowed goal against Stoke at Anfield would cost us. It might still be the case.

FAO Craig H

Give it a rest they won move on

"Mascher's free kick win today was far from a good decision. Alonso scored. **** happens. Sometimes good, sometimes bad."

Seen that now. It was a definite free kick for Liverpool.

Mascher lost control of the ball and was going down. As he was he was kicked from behind by a Hull player. Same for the sending off to, though maybe that was more blatant and as such a red card was given. Either way you look at it, both decisions were correct.

[Milan_Milan]

25 is mainly due to **** refereeing decisions mind.

No doubt.

My diplomatic stance is (and this may seem a bit excessive, but):

United deserve to win the title this year due to how many games they have won and we have let ourselves down too often at home. HOWEVER, if we buy 2 quality players in this summer in the right positions i think there's a chance we could go unbeaten in the league next year.

I am saving this quote to look smug in 12 months (everyone will forget if we dont )

[Vermilion]

No doubt.

My diplomatic stance is (and this may seem a bit excessive, but):

United deserve to win the title this year due to how many games they have won and we have let ourselves down too often at home. HOWEVER, if we buy 2 quality players in this summer in the right positions i think there's a chance we could go unbeaten in the league next year.

I am saving this quote to look smug in 12 months (everyone will forget if we dont )

So, if we were ahead on points having won less games would utd still deserve it more?

[Shaggy]

Lampard's wasn't justified. And at a time we were struggling to win. It gave us the chance to open up Chelsea and we did thanks to Nando.

Knew I'd forget one.

Okay then, 10 out of 11.

[squaddie]

Thing i couldnt understand was if Webb thouroughly believed it was a pen, why didnt he send the keeper off? Bad **** house decision. Not going to dwell on this any longer though. Whats done is done.