Champions League: Semi-finals 20. - 28.4. 2010

[red g]

No, it's not about Mourinho, it's about us and what I'd hate to see us become. I can understand the other point of view, surely it's not difficult to understand this one.

I do admire your morals.

Mine go out the window when i think about the smile winning the premiership would bring.

[Shaggy]

They killed the game because they were down to 10 men and this was the only way to progress.

They were killing the game before they went down to 10 men! After eight minutes Julio Cesar took an eternity to take a goal kick and they'd already had three players go down feigning injury. The sending off changed nothing.

[Mike]

They killed the game because they were down to 10 men and this was the only way to progress.

Exactly

[Shanks]

What don't you understand? His teams are defensive, well-organised.

and thats it.

he had his moments against us agreed but overall he's better value for money imo.

[red g]

They killed the game because they were down to 10 men and this was the only way to progress.

Put it this way, if it was us down to 10 men and Rafa 'killed the game' and got us through, i'd be ****ing delighted. We've played that way many times away from home in europe, there's nothing wrong with making your team hard to beat, even if it means stifling the footballing life out of the game - their objective is to get the result.



In the first leg, yes. Not in the 2nd leg, defending a lead.

Did we attack Juventus in the Delle Alpi?

i do think that is a decent excuse going down to 10 as he would have played the same with 11

[Shaggy]

i do think that is a decent excuse going down to 10 as he would have played the same with 11

They WERE playing the same way! Nothing changed! They had a centre-back/full-back playing on the wing FFS! And the time-wasting started after five minutes.

[Norbs]

Do you know what I wanted Barca to win tonight & when this happened I wanted them knocked out.

Don't want Inter to win as they are just as bad in the cheating department

Come on Bayern Munich in the final

Yep. This incident totally changed my mind too, from not wanting Inter to win to not wanting either to win

[Craig_H]

Again this is part of my point. We went there and put in an honest performance full of grit and endeavour. There's nothing wrong with it, we've done it time and again. All great teams need to do it on occasion. What we've never done is resort to all that anti-football game-killing cheating ****.

I see your point of view about diving and rolling about and no, i dont like it. I recognise that the vast majority, when push comes to shove, will do it and i realise that those who dont will invariably be at a major disadvantage and be left behind. As i said before, if everyone else does it, we might as well too - same as my feelings about a 'sugar daddy' owner - i didnt want one but that's the only realistic way to succeed, cos others have made it that way - so bring the ****er on.

[red g]

you can call it classless, arrogant, out of order......but if after that sending off and the resilence showed to beat the best team in the world, I would have loved Rafa to have shown that emotion, mourinho did at end of game.

[Exiled_red]

They were killing the game before they went down to 10 men! After eight minutes Julio Cesar took an eternity to take a goal kick and they'd already had three players go down feigning injury. The sending off changed nothing.

Cesar was also booked for time wasting in the first half

[Craig_H]

They were killing the game before they went down to 10 men! After eight minutes Julio Cesar took an eternity to take a goal kick and they'd already had three players go down feigning injury. The sending off changed nothing.

Mate, EVERYONE who was leading 3-1 from the first leg, would take goal kicks slowly. Pepe would be doing the same too. The diving and feigning injury, i concur with your view on it - i'd grudgingly accept it to win things, but it's not really desirable. Taking ages over a goal kick though - par for the course, if it was us and Pepe didnt do that, i'd be fuming.

[Exiled_red]

They WERE playing the same way! Nothing changed! They had a centre-back/full-back playing on the wing FFS! And the time-wasting started after five minutes.

That's something Rafa would be ripped for doing but Mourinho does it it's tactical genius

[Craig_H]

i do think that is a decent excuse going down to 10 as he would have played the same with 11

Possibly, but i wouldnt blame him. I'd be doing the same. It is what it is.

[Shaggy]

I see your point of view about diving and rolling about and no, i dont like it. I recognise that the vast majority, when push comes to shove, will do it and i realise that those who dont will invariably be at a major disadvantage and be left behind. As i said before, if everyone else does it, we might as well too - same as my feelings about a 'sugar daddy' owner - i didnt want one but that's the only realistic way to succeed, cos others have made it that way - so bring the ****er on.

I understand and accept yours and others point of view but I don't agree with it. Obviously.

[Mike]

I understand and accept yours and others point of view but I don't agree with it. Obviously.

Agree to disagree