Group D (Australia, Germany, Ghana, Serbia)

[Neil Young]

I wish there was a German around so I could ask them what Schadenfreude means.

[Neil Young]

Mattshark is talking b*ll*cks. That's fine of course - we all do - but this time, of all people, he has absolutely no facts to back up his argument.

[Shaggy]

I never complained about, I said everyone else was

But nice quote mining, taking it out of context. Comparing the Swiss to the Spainish isn't the same as comparing the Serbians to the Germans.

Why isn't it? You're just making rules up to suit your argument. The Swiss 'were camped in their own half for 90% of the 2nd half' - which is exactly what you said Serbia did against the Germans. Yet you defend Switzerland for it, and lambast Serbia. We all know you like Germany man but get real. You want one rule when it suits, and another when it doesn't. Germany are better than Serbia, Spain are better than Switzerland. The Serbs and The Swiss did little differently, yet you admire it when it goes your way and despise it when it doesn't.

[Mattshark]

Why isn't it? You're just making rules up to suit your argument. The Swiss 'were camped in their own half for 90% of the 2nd half' - which is exactly what you said Serbia did against the Germans. Yet you defend Switzerland for it, and lambast Serbia. We all know you like Germany man but get real. You want one rule when it suits, and another when it doesn't. Germany are better than Serbia, Spain are better than Switzerland. The Serbs and The Swiss did little differently, yet you admire it when it goes your way and despise it when it doesn't.

I am not lambasting them, I said they were poor and they were. I said other people were applauding it from Serbia and having a go at other teams for playing in such a way.

[Shaggy]

I am not lambasting them, I said they were poor and they were. I said other people were applauding it from Serbia and having a go at other teams for playing in such a way.

They weren't poor though, they did exactly what you praised the Swiss for and executed it brilliantly. They won 1-0, defended well and still managed to hit the woodwork two or three times.

Don't be silly, why should they go out and let themselves get ripped apart.

Serbia had a lead to protect against a better side. If you've got a pistol and your opponent has a machine gun... you don't up and face them, you take cover and take pot shots.

[Taxi]

Hopefully so will England.

Ah so we want the club and vice Captain to have a terrible summer do we? That'll help LFC.

[Mattshark]

They weren't poor though, they did exactly what you praised the Swiss for and executed it brilliantly. They won 1-0, defended well and still managed to hit the woodwork two or three times.

Not really, they countered well but when they got the ball and had to play I thought they used it very poorly.

Serbia had a lead to protect against a better side. If you've got a pistol and your opponent has a machine gun... you don't up and face them, you take cover and take pot shots.

Again, I thought they just used the ball poor and where struggling through large parts of the half.

[Mattshark]

Ah so we want the club and vice Captain to have a terrible summer do we? That'll help LFC.

So you want every team with Liverpool players and potential Liverpool players to win on that ground then?

[Taxi]

So you want every team with Liverpool players and potential Liverpool players to win on that ground then?

Well yes? I obviously have a preference to England as its my nation, but I always look to support the LFC lads current and ex players and find it bizzare when I see LFC fans cheering when they watch Gerrard and Carra walk off the pitch after losing.

Could you imagine the impact that having a World Cup winning Captain and medal winning Vice Captain would have on the other players in the team? It would be a huge positive.

[Mattshark]

Well yes? I obviously have a preference to England as its my nation, but I always look to support the LFC lads current and ex players and find it bizzare when I see LFC fans cheering when they watch Gerrard and Carra walk off the pitch after losing.

Could you imagine the impact that having a World Cup winning Captain and medal winning Vice Captain would have on the other players in the team? It would be a huge positive.

It isn't about those players, it is about the team, I don't support or like England.

[Taxi]

It isn't about those players, it is about the team, I don't support or like England.

I disagree

You don't like England? A bit of a sweeping statement that...

[Mattshark]

I disagree

You don't like England? A bit of a sweeping statement that...

Fair enough.

The national team, not the country.

[BrooklynRed]

Maybe so but I'll never forgive Der Kaiser for his expansionist and aggressive foreign policy that helped precipitate World War I.

I blame the Serbs, actually.

[SB]

Come on Ausies come on, come on
Come on Ausies come on, come on
Come on Ausies come on, come on
Come on Ausies come on, come on

[Mostar]

I blame the Serbs, actually.

Interesting you know that BrooklynRed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

Gavrilo Princip (Serbian Cyrillic: Гаврило Принцип, pronounced [ɡǎʋrilo prǐntsip]; 13 July 1894(1894-07-13)[2] – 28 April 1918) was a Bosnian Serb who was a Yugoslav nationalist associated with the movement Mlada Bosna (Young Bosnia).[3] Princip assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914.[4] Princip and his accomplices were arrested and implicated a number of members of the Serbian military, leading Austria-Hungary to issue a démarche to Serbia known as the July Ultimatum.[5] This set off a chain of events that led to World War I.[6]