A Different England

[Reece]

Capello has been a complete failure with the warning signs evident through the qualifiers

How so RE the bit in bold? England pissed qualification and scored a **** load of goals, including 9 goals (I think) over two games against Croatia. You can argue it wasn't a strong group but England did everything they need to and more to qualify really.

[Shaggy]

He hasn't been a complete failure at all. Four **** games after a load of good ones doesn't make him a failure. Granted those four games were the biggest ones but England aren't that good anyway and Capello is easily the best they can hope to have in charge.

He arrived with the country at its lowest footballing ebb, they hadn't even qualified for the Euros. The England team was on its arse. Capello turned them around almost immediately. So no, he hasn't been a complete failure at all and fair play to the FA for not making a knee-jerk judgement.

[Mattshark]

He hasn't been a complete failure at all. Four **** games after a load of good ones doesn't make him a failure. Granted those four games were the biggest ones but England aren't that good anyway and Capello is easily the best they can hope to have in charge.

He arrived with the country at its lowest footballing ebb, they hadn't even qualified for the Euros. The England team was on its arse. Capello turned them around almost immediately. So no, he hasn't been a complete failure at all and fair play to the FA for not making a knee-jerk judgement.

75% win, better than any other England manager ever (amusingly Ericksson is second in that category)

[Assassin]

How so RE the bit in bold? England pissed qualification and scored a **** load of goals, including 9 goals (I think) over two games against Croatia. You can argue it wasn't a strong group but England did everything they need to and more to qualify really.

The slitty eyed chav was the reason Ingerlund had a disasterous WC. After all that has happened recently and the rumours on him and Gerrard not seeing eye to eye. It will be interesting to see if Capello bothers to name him in the squad for the next game

[dww]

Sure that logic could be applied to many managerial positions in the end. I don't believe that's enough to keep an underperformimg employee.

Anyone who thinks replacing Capello would lead to an England WC win is deluding themselves IMO, but the same logic applies to keeping him for another 2 years.
My view on Capello is purely based on his ultimate performance in the role he's paid to fullfill......if he can stay in an overpaid role performing below expectations then fair play to him.

The question is were those expectations realistic? If they aren't then potentially you are just throwing away a highly competent employee because you want to blame someone. Capello is one of the best managers in the world - one bad tournament (and one of the best qualifying campaigns ever) doesn't change that.

[McDermotX]

Not knowing his best team.
Goalkeeping questions.
Left sided problems.
No settled CB pairing.
No answer to the Gerrard/Lampard question in midfield.
Persisting with underperformimg players such as Heskey despite promises of selecting form and regular playtime.
Fell into the old trap of picking the best players, and trying to fit them in rather than looking to build the best team. England have very rarely looked like a cohesive unit over his and others' reign.
Old cliques still well in place in his squads etc.
Etc Etc......there's more but these iPhones make it difficult to keep going.

IMO the problems were there, and more importantly, he carried it into the finals along with a helpful tension in the dressing room and staff, that he should take ultimate responsibility for.
The easiest qualifying group in the history of football , hid these problems well, but the finals was almost a microcosm of his reign in my eyes.

The highlight of his reign was him stripping the armband from Terry, but it's clear that there have been repercussions for the harmony of his squads.

[McDermotX]

The question is were those expectations realistic? If they aren't then potentially you are just throwing away a highly competent employee because you want to blame someone. Capello is one of the best managers in the world - one bad tournament (and one of the best qualifying campaigns ever) doesn't change that.

I hear that Dww, and can accept it, but I can only look at his role from his individual performance, which for me is plainly lacking despite his old record in club management.

Getting rid won't necessarily improve thing as there are huge problems inherent in the English game, but from an outsiders point of view, I don't see the value in him to continue in such an underwhelming manner.

[dww]

I hear that Dww, and can accept it, but I can only look at his role from his individual performance, which for me is plainly lacking despite his old record in club management.

Getting rid won't necessarily improve thing as there are huge problems inherent in the English game, but from an outsiders point of view, I don't see the value in him to continue in such an underwhelming manner.

I guess it is important to recognise the difference between club and international management and that perhaps old hands at club level are not the best choices at a World Cup.

I can see that and I think that Balague made a really good point and it was that the key was to see what Capello's assessment of the problems were (he said potentially even in Italian if that helped him express himself better). If Fabio really believes he did nothing wrong and is not planning on changing anything going forward then I think he should be sacked. If he can identify areas that need change and has a plan to do so then I think he should stay.

I think there are genuine benefits of continuity and people getting to know their roles.

I also think that the early mixture of tactical decisions and results should be enough to make one think that Capello is at least as capable of leading us to the Euros as anyone else. The fact he seemed wedded to the choices made when he came in (bar the Walcott omission) is slightly at odds with his pragmatic reputation and a bit of a worry.

I actually think one of the biggest questions is how much are Beckham and Pearce learning from him. I suspect both are being groomed to be part of the coaching/management team long term. They also seem naturally to be more personable which could do them well if they do ever become serious candidates for the England job.

[McDermotX]

Great points Dww

Although I do take exception on one thing -



Balague making a good point

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

Former England manager Glenn Hoddle, who now runs a training academy in Spain, has a simple coaching cure for failings in the English game - the wall pass. "I re-introduced it at Chelsea," he writes in the Daily Mail. "And use it now as a development tool. Stand in front of a wall and pass the ball with your head up. Feel the weight of the pass, get used to the touch of the ball on your feet. Repeat and repeat again."


Is there a video of this as i'm confused about this.

[Pablo]

Former England manager Glenn Hoddle, who now runs a training academy in Spain, has a simple coaching cure for failings in the English game - the wall pass. "I re-introduced it at Chelsea," he writes in the Daily Mail. "And use it now as a development tool. Stand in front of a wall and pass the ball with your head up. Feel the weight of the pass, get used to the touch of the ball on your feet. Repeat and repeat again."


Is there a video of this as i'm confused about this.

So which previously banned poster are you then? RMB maybe? Not quite nailed down which one you are yet. Has anyone else?

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

I'm new to the site mate.

[Pablo]

I'm new to the site mate.

Welcome to the site!again

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

Thanks mate.

[Craig_H]

Former England manager Glenn Hoddle, who now runs a training academy in Spain, has a simple coaching cure for failings in the English game - the wall pass. "I re-introduced it at Chelsea," he writes in the Daily Mail. "And use it now as a development tool. Stand in front of a wall and pass the ball with your head up. Feel the weight of the pass, get used to the touch of the ball on your feet. Repeat and repeat again."


Is there a video of this as i'm confused about this.

Incredibly, Hoddle finally sounds like he's onto something.