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Ian Holloway on ssn, shouting his head off! Pissed myself laughing
Thought it was absurd
What's all this about Ferguson being 'bullied' ?
Tonnes of players have refused to sign new deals and said they wanted out - why is it suddenly 'bullying' when the smelly old tramp happens to be on the receiving end?
Nobody said anything about Owen and his advisors 'bullying' Rafa when that happened.
Tonnes of players have refused to sign new deals and said they wanted out - why is it suddenly 'bullying' when the smelly old tramp happens to be on the receiving end?
Nobody said anything about Owen and his advisors 'bullying' Rafa when that happened.
So true. To hear him moaning about the Bosman ruling being responsible for Fergies woes in that he's forced to sell...well **** me...does he not see the hypocricy in what he says...the times Fergie has taken players from clubs..where the club's have known all to well they had to sell...and you know...those players will have been looked after by those clubs in the same way Holloway used it as a reason for Rooney to be grateful to utd..****in pathetic i say, the way these managers are coming to the ****s defence..like he's a moral god that's always done things the correct way...my arse!
We are aware that there is intense public and media interest on the club at the moment, but there are no developments of note to report today."
"I can confirm a number of meetings have taken place today, including with the player's representative. The outcome of those meetings will become clear in the near future. In the meantime, fans are asked to be patient."
So true. To hear him moaning about the Bosman ruling being responsible for Fergies woes in that he's forced to sell...well **** me...does he not see the hypocricy in what he says...the times Fergie has taken players from clubs..where the club's have known all to well they had to sell...and you know...those players will have been looked after by those clubs in the same way Holloway used it as a reason for Rooney to be grateful to utd..****in pathetic i say, the way these managers are coming to the ****s defence..like he's a moral god that's always done things the correct way...my arse!
Shocking stuff from these Fergie fanboys!
Also fails to understand contract law.
Why the **** should any employee stay at an employer when their contract runs out Mr Holloway?
Manchester United are taking a calculated gamble about the future of several key members of Sir Alex Ferguson's squad after bringing in a new policy about contract talks to save the club millions of pounds in wages.
Dimitar Berbatov, Darren Fletcher, Michael Carrick and Park Ji-sung are among the players who will be affected after the club's owners, the Glazer family, abandoned the old policy of initiating negotiations once a player is two years from the end of his contract.
Instead, the club are willing to delay contract talks until the player has only a year to go, a point at which his transfer value is already depreciating sharply. Previously, when the club operated as a plc., the club were eager to tie up players to new contracts with two years to spare, the idea being to demonstrate to their shareholders that the club were trying to protect their assets.
That no longer applies now the Glazers have control of the club and the Americans, together with the chief executive, David Gill, have decided it makes good business sense not to increase their wage bill any further if it is unnecessary. It runs the risk of United losing players for deflated transfer fees but the club are relaxed about that possibility, believing most, if not all, the players involved will want to stay at Old Trafford.
The policy is described as flexible, with each case being judged on its merit. Talks have already started, for instance, about offering Wayne Rooney a financial package that would make him the highest-paid player in the club's history, even though his current deal does not expire until 2012. Nemanja Vidic finalised a new contract at the start of the season and, once the Rooney negotiations are concluded, it is expected there will be discussions with Patrice Evra, who also has two years to go.
As for Berbatov, Fletcher, Carrick and Park, their position is not so clear and it may be that they have to wait until next summer before being offered new terms. In total, United have eight players out of contract in 2012, with Anderson and John O'Shea also among those not regarded as priorities.
The policy decision follows the Glazers' introduction of a new rule that stipulates the club will not buy players aged 26 or above for significantly large transfer fees, the reason being that they will have little or no re-sale value at the end of a contract taking them into their 30s. Dimitar Berbatov was signed from Tottenham Hotspur for £30.75m at the age of 27 two years ago but that was as an exception to the rule and, in the words of Gill, the "last of his kind".
Instead the club will continue to go down the route they took with Cristiano Ronaldo by trying to find young players who can develop into stars of the future. Their three summer signings – Chris Smalling, Javier Hernández and Bébé – all fit into this category, with the latter lined up to make his first appearance in the Carling Cup tie at Scunthorpe United tomorrow.
This is from September, before the Rooney kerfuffle kicked off, but it indicates how the financial aspect of things under the Glazers is influencing their decision making.
Why the **** should any employee stay at an employer when their contract runs out Mr Holloway?
You hear what he said...as an analogy ffs... "what if you bought a house..then after a few years that house was free to go and do what it want's and you lose the money...Man U own him..they bought him!" etc etc. ****in loon!
You hear what he said...as an analogy ffs... "what if you bought a house..then after a few years that house was free to go and do what it want's and you lose the money...Man U own him..they bought him!" etc etc. ****in loon!
Nowt wrong with that, surely a club buys a player and then they 'own' him for life, no?
What gets me is that Fergie gives his talk about a cow not being as good a cow as the cow you thought was a good cow but was'nt as good a cow as you could get or got but can still get...well...it's so very cleary inspired by Rafa's little chat about Milk...obviously where Fergie got the idea from, but do they give Rafa any credit...no!
And Chelsea captain John Terry has invited Rooney to join him at the south-west London outfit after calling him "the best player in the world".
Full story: Daily Mirror
Doesn't Terry have a contract that matches the pay of the highest earner at Chelsea?
Cunt.
Wonder whether he is prying on Colleen?
I’m the showstopper, the headliner, the main event, the icon that is the Heartbreak Kid
Mob outside Roons house apparently today/tonight..ahh hang on... on 5live now...20-30people gathered outside his house at 8.30 pm..5 live say **** rag going with it on front page tommorrow...cheshire police statement says they were called to address...where they dispursed a crowd of 20-30 people.
Wonder if it was a Lynch mob..............from Ireland by the sounds of it.
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