Eden Hazard

[Neil Young]

I'd imagine this was the goal of all three administrations?

The thing with FSG, is they seem to be planning to do this without risking the long term financial security of the club, but still allowing us to invest in the squad.

For the first time the club is being run by people with solid business acumen, and it is good to see us finally looking to maximise the undoubted power of the brand 'Liverpool Football Club' around the globe.

If it's good enough for Brad Pitt after all...

It's a fair comment but to clarify my point about objectives...

I don't think the team winning/competing was the primary goal of Hicks and Gillett. You only have to look at Hicks's stewardship (as in control rather than taking care or responsibility) of the Texas Rangers to see he does not see long-term on the pitch success as crucial for meeting his business objectives. Just as with the Rangers, he was perfectly happy to f*ck the club completely if it suited his financial needs.

Moores's heart was probably in the right place (let's not get into the almighty f*ck up and coincidental fortune he made when divesting himself of his shares) but he was using an outdated model, one that he had inherited. Although to be honest I'm not sure it should really be regarded as a business model, more a way of doing things because that's how they were done before. That's not a strategy, it's a museum.

We're now run by serious people who have worthwhile objectives, a credible and sustainable strategy and innovative ideas for getting us there. They aren't the only good owners out there but we could be a lot worse off.

[Lecter]

Guess what Lec. You need to learn some basic rules when you post on Est.

IMO you should have been banned a long time ago because of how you behave against posters with a different opinion than you.

I post some weird post sometimes but it is still only my opinion and you don't have any right at all to make fun out of me or to have a go at me. No right at all. If you do then you are the one acting like the idiot. Then you should be banned.

Only because I'm Arn don't give you any right to have a go at me, no right at all. If you do then you should be banned.

You can post like I do instead. I take a lot of ****, **** that I shouldn't need to take but I discuss the subject and don't have a go at someone if he/she have a different opinion than me.

If EVERYONE acted me and discussed what is right or wrong about a post then it would be less fights and strong words.

I will be back again sometime next week and post again and if Lec or anyone else make fun out of me or have a go at me then I expect that poster to be banned. It is not ok to have a go at me because who I'm.

No one should get abused because of an opinion, no one. Discuss instead in a civilized way.

Nobody is making fun of you because of who you are

Its because of what you post

If you are prepared to post things that provoke a reaction you should be willing to stand up and take it on the chin

Not being funny my friend but if you said some of the things you had posted in here in a Liverpool pub the reaction would be far more vitriolic and possibly even violent

I have not abused you or called you names, the only thing I have said is that in terms of business your ideas are crazy

[Lecter]

It's a fair comment but to clarify my point about objectives...

I don't think the team winning/competing was the primary goal of Hicks and Gillett. You only have to look at Hicks's stewardship (as in control rather than taking care or responsibility) of the Texas Rangers to see he does not see long-term on the pitch success as crucial for meeting his business objectives. Just as with the Rangers, he was perfectly happy to f*ck the club completely if it suited his financial needs.

Moores's heart was probably in the right place (let's not get into the almighty f*ck up and coincidental fortune he made when divesting himself of his shares) but he was using an outdated model, one that he had inherited. Although to be honest I'm not sure it should really be regarded as a business model, more a way of doing things because that's how they were done before. That's not a strategy, it's a museum.

We're now run by serious people who have worthwhile objectives, a credible and sustainable strategy and innovative ideas for getting us there. They aren't the only good owners out there but we could be a lot worse off.

Agreed

I've been impressed by the way FSG have done things

Its been a cautious/measured approach but they have a clear strategy and they wont do anything to jeopardise that strategy

I have long thought that the football financial bubble would burst and with just about every other sector imploding I think that even more now

Now is the time to keep a tight rein on finances imo

[Mattshark]

Nobody is making fun of you because of who you are

Its because of what you post

If you are prepared to post things that provoke a reaction you should be willing to stand up and take it on the chin

Not being funny my friend but if you said some of the things you had posted in here in a Liverpool pub the reaction would be far more vitriolic and possibly even violent

I have not abused you or called you names, the only thing I have said is that in terms of business your ideas are crazy

You have abused and bullied him Lec.

And that would do nothing but show the pub was populated by vapid idiots.

Not agreeing with Arn is no reason to bully him.

[Mostar]

Of course but people are talking as though its critical to qualify this season

It isnt

Preferable but not critical

I disagree and I indicated plenty of reasons why it is critical in my previous post.

Imo if we don't make it, it will be a step back not forward as we would not improve over the last year result (don't care much if we qualify for Europa League) even after spending substantial sum of money in the summer.

Yes things are difficult this year, as they were last with 6 teams competing for CL spots, but our main competitors haven't improved much and if we don't qualify we have no one else to blame but ourselves..

Let's hope we do coz if we don't there will be plenty of pressure and things to discuss about and that cannot be good for the club's stability.

[Nick77]

What the **** are all these FFP posts doing in the EDEN HAZARD thread ffs?!!

[Lecter]

You have abused and bullied him Lec.

And that would do nothing but show the pub was populated by vapid idiots.

Not agreeing with Arn is no reason to bully him.

Have I hell bullied him

What I find highly amusing is that there are other posters on here who have responded to him in this and other threads in a far more condescending manner yet Arn and yourself have chosen to ignore them and focus on my posts

Frankly I will happily leave this forum if the mods tell me my actions have been out of order but as of yet none of them have

[Mattshark]

Have I hell bullied him

What I find highly amusing is that there are other posters on here who have responded to him in this and other threads in a far more condescending manner yet Arn and yourself have chosen to ignore them and focus on my posts

Frankly I will happily leave this forum if the mods tell me my actions have been out of order but as of yet none of them have

I haven't ignored them, but you posted you haven't been insulting to him and I wholly disagree (some of the pictures you posted in response to Arn were designed to do nothing but insult). Sorry but that is my view of it, and no you are not the only one.

[Lecter]

I haven't ignored them, but you posted you haven't been insulting to him and I wholly disagree. Sorry but that is my view of it, and no you are not the only one.

I havent insulted him I just said hes talking nonsense/crazy when it comes to finances

If thats "bullying" then I'm guilty

If the mods see this as bullying then I will gladly leave the forum, no skin off my nose

Maybe in future I should take more offence at Arns posts "Maybe I should post in big letters so Lec will be able to read it. He is getting old so he sometimes miss important words."

[RichC]

Can we make that the last word on this please

FWIW Lec I and as far as I know the other mods don't think you've bullied Arn.

So can we please get back to this being about Hazard going forwards

thanks.

[JohnDoe]

Sign him. He'll turn us into title contenders.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

You fockers have raped my thread.

[little dave hedgehog]

i wouldn't worry about it. at least it's been for the most part a reasoned and thoughtful debate.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

I didn't read it.
But thanks for filling me in.

[Exiled_red]