UEFA warning ahead of financial fair play rules

[Neil Young]

Indeed the winner of the last one looked like the old hag in True Blood. Shocking.

Yes, she did look a bit weird. I suppose there's a difference between fashion modelling and a beauty contest.

It's all the whooping and bitching on that programme I find difficult to tolerate. Well, that and Tyra Banks whispering, "Congratulations, you're still in the running to be America's Next Top Model."

[lancinleeds]

Yes, she did look a bit weird. I suppose there's a difference between fashion modelling and a beauty contest.

It's all the whooping and bitching on that programme I find difficult to tolerate. Well, that and Tyra Banks whispering, "Congratulations, you're still in the running to be America's Next Top Model."

That is awfully cringing, though at least she has lost the jumpsuit look this season. Plus the panel on ANTM is much more entertaining than other countries especially BNTM.

Anyway red headed lesbian for the win.*

*For the small number of posts I have on est, too many of them have been ANTM related.

[Neil Young]

That is awfully cringing, though at least she has lost the jumpsuit look this season. Plus the panel on ANTM is much more entertaining than other countries especially BNTM.

Anyway red headed lesbian for the win.*

*For the small number of posts I have on est, too many of them have been ANTM related.

Now there are three of us - you, me and Mattshark.

Yes, she is quite stunning. But I haven't watched much of the new series, sorry, "cycle" . I'm still disappointed the normal looking one from the last series got knocked out in the semi-final.

[lancinleeds]

Now there are three of us - you, me and Mattshark.

Yes, she is quite stunning. But I haven't watched much of the new series, sorry, "cycle" . I'm still disappointed the normal looking one from the last series got knocked out in the semi-final.

Think we need a sub forum or sticky for such important discussions.

Normal looking - took me a while to remember which one you could class as normal! I can't get my head round them all being around 6ft.

UEFA financial fair play rules have taken a bit of a twist.

[Neil Young]

Think we need a sub forum or sticky for such important discussions.

Normal looking - took me a while to remember which one you could class as normal! I can't get my head round them all being around 6ft.

UEFA financial fair play rules have taken a bit of a twist.

I meant the plus size one. The one who didn't look like an a dieting stick insect suffering from anorexia during a famine.

[Lee]

Now, I've read this thread but there's a lot of words in it.

What will happen to - for example - the Man City players' contracts when the new rules come in? If City didn't meet the new criteria, would their players be forced to take pay cuts?

[Neil Young]

Now, I've read this thread but there's a lot of words in it.

What will happen to - for example - the Man City players' contracts when the new rules come in? If City didn't meet the new criteria, would their players be forced to take pay cuts?

Having read the thread I think what would happen is that the Man City players would all be called into a television studio where Tyra Banks and a team of "top people from the fashion world" would vote them off one by one.

[The_weatherman]

Now, I've read this thread but there's a lot of words in it.

What will happen to - for example - the Man City players' contracts when the new rules come in? If City didn't meet the new criteria, would their players be forced to take pay cuts?

Presumably City will not allowed entry to UEFA competitions. Reckon that's it.

[BillobShaisley]

That's how I understand it.

[Craig_H]

Cant see them going beyond the first two, but....

UEFA publishes their 8 punishments for breaching FFP rules 4 April 2012

At the UEFA conference in Istanbul, UEFA ratified three more disciplinary measures for clubs that breach FFP rules. As I outlined in my article on 7 Feb, five measures had previously been agreed at the Nyon Conference in January. The full menu of punishments now reads:

Reprimand / Warning
Fine
Deduction of Points
Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition
Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions;
A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions
Disqualification from a competition in progress
Exclusion from future competitions


Although the European Commission recently announced their approval of the Financial Fair Play regulations, there is a requirement for the rules and punishments to be applied in a fair and consistent manner. Deciding which clubs receive which punishments and determining the severity of the punishment for all transgressions is likely to prove extremely problematic for Platini. The FFP rules contain a huge number of potential transgressions, raging from overspend, to failure to have an under-10 youth team. Even the financial requirements are wide-ranging and UEFA will be challenged when comparing rule-breaking such as overspend, failure of an owner to inject equity and failure to be up-to date with taxes. And once the relative seriousness of the crimes are evaluated, there will be issues be determined within each crime. For example, should a club overspending by £1m be punished the same as one overspending by £50m? Exclusion isn't a an easily scalable punishment. And if the problem isn't difficult enough, UEFA has advised that it is keen to phase-in FFP over the next few years (presumably increasing the severity of the punishments). When considering this potential minefild, UEFA needs to be mindful that it faces a potential legal challenge if the punishments are not applied fairly and consistently.

Platini has achieved a great deal and surprised many by getting the FFP rules this far - perhaps the hard part is only just beginning.

[cream]

So most clubs will be ok for the first 5 years at least.

[Dhav]

Sorry, I haven't read the whole missive, but how can UEFA enforce a points ban on a domestic league, unless the measures are to be implemented by the individual football associations of each UEFA member country.

[dww]

Sorry, I haven't read the whole missive, but how can UEFA enforce a points ban on a domestic league, unless the measures are to be implemented by the individual football associations of each UEFA member country.

Presumably all FAs or relevant league authorities have to sign up to the rules to allow their teams to participate in UEFA competitions?

[Exiled_red]

Wasn't there something about the punishments ultimately being handed down by the individual FA's but UEFA expect them to follow their guidance.

[Lecter]

Chelsea and City face Europe ban: UEFA chief's tough warning to Premier League big spenders
By Rob Draper
PUBLISHED: 22:40, 28 April 2012 | UPDATED: 22:40, 28 April 2012


Big spenders Manchester City and Chelsea have been warned by Europe's football bosses that if they splash out on players this summer they may be forced to cut back their Champions League squads - and even be barred from taking part in European competition.

Under UEFA's tough Financial Fair Play rules, applied from this season, clubs are allowed to make losses of no more than £36million over two years.


But with sanctions for offending clubs due to be enforced from 2013-14, City and Chelsea face an almost impossible task to reduce their losses to acceptable levels.

City reported a £197m loss last year, while Chelsea's deficit was £67.7m. With both expected to rebuild their squads at considerable expense this summer, their prospects of success - and even future participation - in the highly lucrative Champions league are looking bleak.

UEFA president Michel Platini is expected at the Etihad Stadium for tomorrow's Premier League title showdown between City and Manchester United.

Victory for City would throw the momentum back to Roberto Mancini's expensively assembled team but City know that both they and Chelsea could face exclusion from the Champions League if they do not change their ways.


Alasdair Bell, UEFA's director of legal affairs, insisted last week that serious sanctions will apply to clubs who miss the £36m limit by more than 20 per cent.

In the first instance, UEFA will force offending clubs to withdraw up to five players from their 25-strong Champions League squads for the 2013 competition.

Repeat offenders will face being thrown out of the Champions League from the following year.

Bell said: 'Sanctions need to be sufficiently effective and credible to make people abide by the rules. If we're not capable of enforcing the system, in a way in which makes Financial Fair Play a reality, then we might as well forget it.

'Clubs who maybe have made more serious and effective efforts to bring their own house in order will expect the rules to be applied to those who have not done that.'



City's transfer targets this summer include Eden Hazard, Fernando Llorente, Edinson Cavani and Luka Modric, while Chelsea, who yesterday signed 23-yearold Werder Bremen winger Marko Marin for £7m, are also targeting Hazard and Modric as well as Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuain.

The total value of those signings could top £150m.
Bell revealed that a new independent body called the Club Financial Control Panel, comprising lawyers and accountants, will be charged with enforcing UEFA's rules.
'The aim is to regularise and stabilise football finances,' said Bell.

'The sanctions system has to be tailored to encourage rather than punish. But if certain clubs are just ignoring the system, we are going to face legitimate demands from others to do something about it. This is a balancing exercise that will have to be carried out by the panel.'

Clubs will be able to complain to the new body about rivals they believe are breaking the rules.

While City appear to be banking on a reported £400m, 10-year sponsorship by the Etihad airline to make their debts more in line with the Financial Fair Play rules, that deal is already being investigated by UEFA because the airline is owned by the royal family of Abu Dhabi and City's owner, Sheik Mansour, is a member of that family.


Bell says the new panel will scrutinise such deals in the same way that the European Union Commission assess whether a country is providing illegal state aid to its own industry.
'We have to determine whether a sponsorship deal is genuine or a disguised capital injection,' he said.

Bell insists that even if one of Europe's blue-chip clubs, such as Barcelona or Inter Milan, were to fail the regulations, there would be no rewriting of the rules.
'That shouldn't happen,' said Bell.
'The Club Financial Control Panel will be independent and their sole task will be to determine whether rules have been respected and, if not, what sanctions should be applied.'


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