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    #61
    If what Eto'o said is true then he hasn't exactly created harmony in the Inter squad. He left the squad in real mess if you believe Eto'o.

    That he is an excellent man manager isn't exactly true. Look at Chelsea after he left, look at Inter.

    Players in different camps, that is the state he left both squads. How can you call that excellent man management?
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    from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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      #62
      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
      So were you as sympathetic to Rafa when he was fighting to save the club when it was obvious to him that we were rapidly imploding, or did you accuse him of causing trouble ‘like he did at Valencia? (Genuine question, not an accusation)
      Sir, sir, (raises hand) i know the answer i know the answer...

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        #63
        Originally posted by Muddled View Post
        Jose Mourinho linked with Liverpool job after refusing to commit to Real Madrid | Metro.co.uk metro.co.uk/sport/football… via @Metro_Sport
        Maureen using Liverpool to get his way at Madrid shocker.

        Although, i could easily imagine Madrid kicking him out on his arse if he keeps his fun and games going, i mean, it's not like Madrid have'nt got a great team, don't see why he's so worried, he IS the self proclaimed special one, so he should realisitically be able to manage the situation, with the talent available, they don't play Barca every week.

        Even if we say Barca have the better squad/1st 11, Maureen is the better manager surely, so he should be able to cope with what he has, it's hardly a skeleton squad at Madrid.

        Frankly, i'm amazed he's kicking up such a fuss so soon into his Madrid career, unless, he really does want to manage lfc instead and soon as, which myself, i find hard to believe right now, more likely destinations out there for him, City in Champs league might do it for him now.

        Whoever he manages while Fergie is still at utd, i'd still expect him to join them when the time comes.
        Last edited by Vermilion; 24-01-11, 01:00 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by RedReet View Post
          So were you as sympathetic to Rafa when he was fighting to save the club when it was obvious to him that we were rapidly imploding, or did you accuse him of causing trouble ‘like he did at Valencia? (Genuine question, not an accusation)
          i see the two as completely opposite situations.

          rafa fought for many things (more power, expose the yanks etc...) but i dont remember a time when he fought to unite the playing staff and the off field staff like jose does. i was sympathetic in rafa's cause when he was publicly damming the owners for budget etc... but when it came to his power trip rants i had no sympathy because i was against it.
          People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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            #65
            Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post
            i see the two as completely opposite situations.

            rafa fought for many things (more power, expose the yanks etc...) but i dont remember a time when he fought to unite the playing staff and the off field staff like jose does. i was sympathetic in rafa's cause when he was publicly damming the owners for budget etc... but when it came to his power trip rants i had no sympathy because i was against it.
            so you believe that if madrid gave him 100m to spend on who ever he wants this week that he wouldnt be quiet and would still be fighting to unite the staff?

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              #66
              Originally posted by Marsh View Post
              so you believe that if madrid gave him 100m to spend on who ever he wants this week that he wouldnt be quiet and would still be fighting to unite the staff?
              of course he would keep fighting. he does it at every club where he apparently spends **** loads. the man is undeniably a manager who wants his club to have a tight knit community / family feel.
              People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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                #67
                of course he would

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                  #68
                  I'm going to defend mourinho's spending

                  when he arrived at chelsea he bought 2 players straight away for big money, drogba and carvalho (the others that arrived that summer were already there or in the pipeline), both were outstanding successes, the following summer he spent large on essien, who was in the top 3 midfielders in the league for a long time so again for me a success, only other big money player was shevchenko and although people assume he was abramovich's choice, even if he was mourinho's that 3 out of 4 big money players that he got bang on and it was over a couple of seasons, that for me is pretty good going

                  at inter in 2009 he sold ibrahimovic and got eto'o, sneider and one more player (can't remember who) for the price

                  in the summer at real he got khedira, ozul and di maria none of which were massive names with massive prices (compare to summer 2009)

                  so for me, saying he only goes to places with daft amounts of money doesn't stack up now (I apologise if I've remembered incorrectly and there were more big money players I've forgotten about)

                  now, as much as I think he would be good for us, my main doubt surrounds his man management skills, anyone remember Johnson saying chelsea destroyed his interest in football? ranieri took him there but after a year mourinho was in charge and you could argue didn't give him a chance

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post
                    i see the two as completely opposite situations.

                    rafa fought for many things (more power, expose the yanks etc...) but i dont remember a time when he fought to unite the playing staff and the off field staff like jose does. i was sympathetic in rafa's cause when he was publicly damming the owners for budget etc... but when it came to his power trip rants i had no sympathy because i was against it.
                    What does it matter what he fought for, he fought for what he thought was in the clubs best interests, just like Mourinho thinks he’s doing now. Both are winners, fully believe in their methods and will do everything in their power to try and implement these methods, regardless of who it upsets. I don’t see much difference to be honest apart from the obvious hypocrisy from our fans who think the sun shines out of Mourinho’s arse but Rafa just causes trouble everywhere he goes.

                    I don’t exactly know what you mean by these ‘power trip rants’, but I do wonder how they compare to all the interviews and press conferences that had Mourinho detested in Italy and the storm he’s causing in Spain by blaming referee’s and accusing managers of lying down for Barca.

                    Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t lose any sleep if we employed Jose, he is clearly a world class manager, but I just can’t get my head round how certain fans are so happy to criticise Rafa and his methods but yet are in full support of Mourinho completely ignoring the obvious parallels. (again not exactly aimed at you)
                    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by redstaralex View Post
                      I'm going to defend mourinho's spending

                      when he arrived at chelsea he bought 2 players straight away for big money, drogba and carvalho (the others that arrived that summer were already there or in the pipeline), both were outstanding successes, the following summer he spent large on essien, who was in the top 3 midfielders in the league for a long time so again for me a success, only other big money player was shevchenko and although people assume he was abramovich's choice, even if he was mourinho's that 3 out of 4 big money players that he got bang on and it was over a couple of seasons, that for me is pretty good going

                      at inter in 2009 he sold ibrahimovic and got eto'o, sneider and one more player (can't remember who) for the price

                      in the summer at real he got khedira, ozul and di maria none of which were massive names with massive prices (compare to summer 2009)

                      so for me, saying he only goes to places with daft amounts of money doesn't stack up now (I apologise if I've remembered incorrectly and there were more big money players I've forgotten about)

                      now, as much as I think he would be good for us, my main doubt surrounds his man management skills, anyone remember Johnson saying chelsea destroyed his interest in football? ranieri took him there but after a year mourinho was in charge and you could argue didn't give him a chance
                      Inter spent something like €80m net his first season there. It is easy to forget players like Mancini and Quaresma.
                      Stop the cyberhate


                      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                      Susan Black

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by redstaralex View Post
                        I'm going to defend mourinho's spending

                        when he arrived at chelsea he bought 2 players straight away for big money, drogba and carvalho (the others that arrived that summer were already there or in the pipeline), both were outstanding successes, the following summer he spent large on essien, who was in the top 3 midfielders in the league for a long time so again for me a success, only other big money player was shevchenko and although people assume he was abramovich's choice, even if he was mourinho's that 3 out of 4 big money players that he got bang on and it was over a couple of seasons, that for me is pretty good going

                        at inter in 2009 he sold ibrahimovic and got eto'o, sneider and one more player (can't remember who) for the price

                        in the summer at real he got khedira, ozul and di maria none of which were massive names with massive prices (compare to summer 2009)

                        so for me, saying he only goes to places with daft amounts of money doesn't stack up now (I apologise if I've remembered incorrectly and there were more big money players I've forgotten about)

                        now, as much as I think he would be good for us, my main doubt surrounds his man management skills, anyone remember Johnson saying chelsea destroyed his interest in football? ranieri took him there but after a year mourinho was in charge and you could argue didn't give him a chance
                        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...t-Chelsea.html

                        2007
                        Aug Juliano Belletti Barcelona £3.7m
                        July Florent Malouda Lyon £13.5m
                        June Tal Ben Haim Bolton Free
                        June Claudio Pizarro Bayern Munich Free
                        June Steve Sidwell Reading Free


                        2006
                        Aug Ashley Cole Arsenal £5m
                        Aug Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
                        June John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
                        May Ben Sahar Hapoel Tev Aviv £320,000
                        May Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
                        May Salomon Kalou Feyenoord £8m
                        May Michael Ballack Bayern Munich Free


                        2005
                        Aug Michael Essien Lyon £24.4m
                        July Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
                        July Lassana Diarra Le Havre £1m
                        July Scott Sinclair Bristol Rovers £160,000
                        June Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
                        Jan Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
                        July Ricardo Carvalho Porto £19.85m
                        July Didier Drogba Marseille £24m
                        July Tiago Benfica £8m
                        July Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
                        July Paulo Ferreira Porto £13.2m
                        July Arjen Robben PSV Eindhoven £12m


                        Total £225.76m
                        True alot of the biggest signings worked out Drogba, Carvalho, Essien
                        But a couple didn't Wright-Phillips and Shevchenko

                        In the mid price signings Robben, Mikel, Malouda and Kalou worked out
                        Ferreira, Tiago, Del Horno didn't.

                        Based on that his record in the transfer market isn't that special IMO.
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                          He'd come and win us the league .
                          Well we don't want THAT!

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by anfieldanfield View Post
                            Well we don't want THAT!

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                              #74
                              Mourinho is a big admirer of Fergie, he would love to emulate what he has achieved at United. Maybe Liverpool can give him the platform and the stable environment for long term success. The ideal jobs for Mourinho would be us or United, and to be honest, I think he would prefer to work for our owners than theirs. City will throw money at him, but I think he knows deep down that it will only a matter of time before things turn sour.
                              Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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                                #75
                                Sorry for posting something that has come indirectly from that scumbag paper but, according to the BBC Gossip Page, Mourinho has 'allegedly' said that he decided to return to England...

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