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    #31
    Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
    Moving to Barca isnt a problem, i dont begrudge him that.

    Refusing to play though, just isnt the done thing. Pure selfish cuntery.
    No excuse, but with the state the club was in, the fact that they had also just callously sacked Rafa showing no loyalty at all, then if you believe that he had a gentleman’s agreement to be allowed to leave that summer, then Barca come knocking, I’d be tempted to take matters into my own hands rather than trusting Purslow et al.
    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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      #32
      Nah, you cant refuse to play. Just no.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
        Nah, you cant refuse to play. Just no.
        Well his ex-tesammates were doing it often enough under Hodgson.
        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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          #34
          Badum-tish!

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            #35
            Yes he was a very good player for us, and I would like he back, but it's never going to happen I can't see him returning to England given that his family were unhappy here.
            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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              #36
              i wonder whether it was true that he had an agreement to go but then the club reneged on that.

              if they did then i can see why he didnt play.

              Also i dont see him coming back for the reasons he stated he wanted to leave.

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                #37
                Quite a few in the squad were supposed to be very pissed off with him & not even speaking to him by the time he left.

                He's a mercenary of the highest order and although we miss him, I wouldn't take him back. Much rather sign Lassana Diarra or someone else.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                  Nah, you cant refuse to play. Just no.
                  This is what I hate about modern football. Player gets the hump, wants to move, so instead of playing til his move comes about they sometimes say "i refuse to play for you". Pienaar did the same before the derby.

                  In any other job, aside perhaps from anyone under the RMT, if we told our bosses we didnt want to work for them, they'd show us the door. No golden contract to go to and no compensation.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by paulg View Post
                    This is what I hate about modern football. Player gets the hump, wants to move, so instead of playing til his move comes about they sometimes say "i refuse to play for you". Pienaar did the same before the derby.

                    In any other job, aside perhaps from anyone under the RMT, if we told our bosses we didnt want to work for them, they'd show us the door. No golden contract to go to and no compensation.
                    Totally agree. The situation is always entirely of their own making, such as deciding to have a kid that lives in another country. Bunch of spoiled ****s.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Drago View Post
                      Quite a few in the squad were supposed to be very pissed off with him & not even speaking to him by the time he left.He's a mercenary of the highest order and although we miss him, I wouldn't take him back. Much rather sign Lassana Diarra or someone else.
                      Where did you read this?
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                        #41
                        On the wall of the gents toilets at Melwood

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                          #42
                          Take him back in a heartbeat. This is sport lost its morals a long time ago, so I would have no problem with seeing him back at Anfield. In fact, I think he would be ideal in this King Kenny's team.
                          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by paulg View Post
                            .... wants to move, so instead of playing til his move comes about they sometimes say "i refuse to play for you"......
                            Hadn't he already held on for at least 12 maybe 18 months of telling the club he wanted out? He stayed after Xabi left, i'm sure on the understanding that he could go next year, and then we started trying to keep him, at which point he raised the stakes?
                            "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by BillobShaisley View Post
                              Hadn't he already held on for at least 12 maybe 18 months of telling the club he wanted out? He stayed after Xabi left, i'm sure on the understanding that he could go next year, and then we started trying to keep him, at which point he raised the stakes?
                              Sorry, but when he signed that contract, he committed himself for the duration of the deal. If the club agreed to let him go in the summer of 2010, that's fine - obviously though, this would be subject to receiving an acceptable offer. He must know that.

                              And the City game was 3 full days before the transfer window was due to shut - so why couldnt he have played in it, and still got his move?

                              His refusal to play was unacceptable, unprofessional and simply not the done thing, on any level whatsoever.

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