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Hang on a sec there Nicey. Although I sort of agree with your sentiment, really is it that surprising that fans, the vast majority of whom earn less in a year than someone like Aquilani does in a week, struggle to empathise with the poor diddums when he decides he isn't too keen on the weather and wants to go back home? And then that the club, using our ticket and merchandising money that could be being spent on new players who do want to play for us, instead have to pay this guy off to the tune of millions of pounds?Originally posted by MrNice View Post
People dont settle, half the people slagging him off for not settling probably have lived in the same 10 mile radius there entire lives ... I would like to see some from the estates of Liverpool, move to some industrial town in Northern Italy and see how they fair .... its no ****ing cake walk
Lay of the lad
I'll tell you what, if someone wanted to pay me that much to kick a ball around I'd settle in Outer Mongolia.
Now I know its not quite a simple as all that, but many fans are getting pig sick of seeing vastly overpaid footballers, whom clubs invest fortunes in signing, just deciding they'd rather play somewhere else and not just ****ing off there, but demanding millions from the first club to leave. Player-power and player wages have gone absolutely mad in football, not helped by things like the Bosman rulings, and the average supporter is probably more dislocated from the players than they ever have been before.
Now that's no excuse for slagging someone off on the basis of their appearance etc, but when they (or their agent) are obviously manipulating a situation for the maximum financial advantage, when they've already made a flipping fortune out of the club (and by association, the fans) for basically no return at all then imo, people have a right to be a little bit less than fawning over them.I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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Originally posted by MrMichael View PostHang on a sec there Nicey. Although I sort of agree with your sentiment, really is it that surprising that fans, the vast majority of whom earn less in a year than someone like Aquilani does in a week, struggle to empathise with the poor diddums when he decides he isn't too keen on the weather and wants to go back home? And then that the club, using our ticket and merchandising money that could be being spent on new players who do want to play for us, instead have to pay this guy off to the tune of millions of pounds?
I'll tell you what, if someone wanted to pay me that much to kick a ball around I'd settle in Outer Mongolia.
Now I know its not quite a simple as all that, but many fans are getting pig sick of seeing vastly overpaid footballers, whom clubs invest fortunes in signing, just deciding they'd rather play somewhere else and not just ****ing off there, but demanding millions from the first club to leave. Player-power and player wages have gone absolutely mad in football, not helped by things like the Bosman rulings, and the average supporter is probably more dislocated from the players than they ever have been before.
Now that's no excuse for slagging someone off on the basis of their appearance etc, but when they (or their agent) are obviously manipulating a situation for the maximum financial advantage, when they've already made a flipping fortune out of the club (and by association, the fans) for basically no return at all then imo, people have a right to be a little bit less than fawning over them.
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Originally posted by MrMichael View PostHang on a sec there Nicey. Although I sort of agree with your sentiment, really is it that surprising that fans, the vast majority of whom earn less in a year than someone like Aquilani does in a week, struggle to empathise with the poor diddums when he decides he isn't too keen on the weather and wants to go back home? And then that the club, using our ticket and merchandising money that could be being spent on new players who do want to play for us, instead have to pay this guy off to the tune of millions of pounds?
I'll tell you what, if someone wanted to pay me that much to kick a ball around I'd settle in Outer Mongolia.
Now I know its not quite a simple as all that, but many fans are getting pig sick of seeing vastly overpaid footballers, whom clubs invest fortunes in signing, just deciding they'd rather play somewhere else and not just ****ing off there, but demanding millions from the first club to leave. Player-power and player wages have gone absolutely mad in football, not helped by things like the Bosman rulings, and the average supporter is probably more dislocated from the players than they ever have been before.
Now that's no excuse for slagging someone off on the basis of their appearance etc, but when they (or their agent) are obviously manipulating a situation for the maximum financial advantage, when they've already made a flipping fortune out of the club (and by association, the fans) for basically no return at all then imo, people have a right to be a little bit less than fawning over them.
A lad I know spends the year traveling from country to country and will settle wherever he can get a game. He's been all over the place since getting released when we were kids and he's done so gladly as that's the nature of the beast.
A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.
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Originally posted by MrMichael View PostHang on a sec there Nicey. Although I sort of agree with your sentiment, really is it that surprising that fans, the vast majority of whom earn less in a year than someone like Aquilani does in a week, struggle to empathise with the poor diddums when he decides he isn't too keen on the weather and wants to go back home? And then that the club, using our ticket and merchandising money that could be being spent on new players who do want to play for us, instead have to pay this guy off to the tune of millions of pounds?
I'll tell you what, if someone wanted to pay me that much to kick a ball around I'd settle in Outer Mongolia.
Now I know its not quite a simple as all that, but many fans are getting pig sick of seeing vastly overpaid footballers, whom clubs invest fortunes in signing, just deciding they'd rather play somewhere else and not just ****ing off there, but demanding millions from the first club to leave. Player-power and player wages have gone absolutely mad in football, not helped by things like the Bosman rulings, and the average supporter is probably more dislocated from the players than they ever have been before.
Now that's no excuse for slagging someone off on the basis of their appearance etc, but when they (or their agent) are obviously manipulating a situation for the maximum financial advantage, when they've already made a flipping fortune out of the club (and by association, the fans) for basically no return at all then imo, people have a right to be a little bit less than fawning over them.
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I see both sides of the arguement MrM and MrNice.
i worked abroad for a year in gran canaria and whilst i loved every minute of it (even with some of the **** jobs i took on from gardening to serving in pubs/clubs) i can see how hard it would be to settle. i was lucky in that my cousin was with me and so i has someone to fall back on while we tried to learn the language / settle into new surroundings / make friends etc... What made it better (and this is serious) was the weather. No matter what, you wake up 99% of the days with gorgeous blue skies and sun and high temperatures it makes you happy. You go to a **** job in great weather its easy to get through. Living in scotland were lucky if there's 1% of days like that and it can be difficlut.
however, while we struggled to start with, aqualani has had every opportunity to intergrate himself and adapt quicker to his new surroundings. he was injured for the first 6-8 months here so there is no excuse for him not to use his spare time better by getting out and about liverpool, learn the language a lot more quickly etc... Plus, as MrM said, aqua was being paid a fortune and whilst money doesnt make you happy (even though it does IMO cause im shallow) it makes life a whole lot ****ing easier.People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.
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If I had done that people would no doubt have said I was slagging off Ian AyreOriginally posted by MrNice View PostYou cannot ****ing blame him for having better representation than us ... Blame the club for being ****ing soft touch assbags
Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Originally posted by MrMichael View PostHang on a sec there Nicey. Although I sort of agree with your sentiment, really is it that surprising that fans, the vast majority of whom earn less in a year than someone like Aquilani does in a week, struggle to empathise with the poor diddums when he decides he isn't too keen on the weather and wants to go back home? And then that the club, using our ticket and merchandising money that could be being spent on new players who do want to play for us, instead have to pay this guy off to the tune of millions of pounds?
I'll tell you what, if someone wanted to pay me that much to kick a ball around I'd settle in Outer Mongolia.
Now I know its not quite a simple as all that, but many fans are getting pig sick of seeing vastly overpaid footballers, whom clubs invest fortunes in signing, just deciding they'd rather play somewhere else and not just ****ing off there, but demanding millions from the first club to leave. Player-power and player wages have gone absolutely mad in football, not helped by things like the Bosman rulings, and the average supporter is probably more dislocated from the players than they ever have been before.
Now that's no excuse for slagging someone off on the basis of their appearance etc, but when they (or their agent) are obviously manipulating a situation for the maximum financial advantage, when they've already made a flipping fortune out of the club (and by association, the fans) for basically no return at all then imo, people have a right to be a little bit less than fawning over them.
Well said Mr.M............footballers think its a one way street with the contracts they sign, there is a personal level of responsibility from the player, as well as the club."I will make the boys feel your support"
Jurgen Klopp June 2020
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I always love it when some no-mark trying to make a name for himself waffles a load of horlicks on ****ter and half of the forum actually believes it. The only mistake (if it is a mistake) is the club never tell us what really happens or if there is any truth in what some spotty yoof is blathering about.Originally posted by baitman View Postsuch blind devotion must be admired
but surely if a player and his agent are just here to **** us over and drain us dry then fans are not wrong to be upset and angry that some **** stain is just taking us for a bunch of mugs.
i agree the management shouldnt let thing escalate to this degree, but who could foresee that a player would sign and then want to stay in italy
Since when has ****ter been gospel???
I don't believe a single jot about Aquilani until the club publish it on the ofal.Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
Those that killed her, were following the law.
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