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Alex and Anelka, confirm they have put in transfer requests....
lets get Alex.
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Kenny is starting from a stronger position too. A completely new manager at LFC would have a much harder time doing this.
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It's a tough one - AVB has to be super confident to do this at his age but Terry is a supercunt.Originally posted by dom9 View PostThing is it is possible to ease older, local, 'heartbeat of the team' players out the first team. Carragher being a case in point. It requires strong leadership. I would play real Alex instead, personally.
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Thing is it is possible to ease older, local, 'heartbeat of the team' players out the first team. Carragher being a case in point. It requires strong leadership. I would play real Alex instead, personally.Originally posted by badpiggy View PostI think you're on the money there. He's come into Chelsea at the worst possible time and there's probably no good way of getting rid of Terry or Lampard, partly because they're both good but declining players and partly because they're both unsuited to the high defensive line pressing game that AVB seems to want.
I also agree that Luis is not a horrible defender as people keep claiming - he's young and getting used to a situation that is sort-of changing and Terry is probably the main problem for him cos he's obviously an egostistical thinks-he-Mr. Chelsea cunt who just won't be told. I think his mistakes have been positional mainly which show the confucion he's probably feeling as a result of having a failing uinsuited Terry controlling the defence.
Torres is also a huge problem for AVB and despite the mounting evidence for his decline there's still the possibility that he could score a lot of goals. Noone on here has the expertise to say that he's shot because of injuries even though the case for that seems strong. I'd maintain that his performance against the Scum a few games back could be evidence that it's still in him - equally it could be the one last excellent game he had in him.
Anyway, it's unlikely that he'll get much more time so none of this really matters for him. If nothing else I hope I've helped show that Terry is a cunt.
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I think you're on the money there. He's come into Chelsea at the worst possible time and there's probably no good way of getting rid of Terry or Lampard, partly because they're both good but declining players and partly because they're both unsuited to the high defensive line pressing game that AVB seems to want.Originally posted by dww View PostThe squad is well below the level it was a few years ago but I don't think AVB is adapting his tactics to get the best out of the players he has. He's also tended to fudge the big decisions about easing Terry and to a lesser extent Lampard out of the team. His pressing game really doesn't suit either of them.
Terry and Luiz is a terrible pairing. Both go to challenge for the first ball and neither covers the other. I think Luiz will come good though, he's got a lot of skill and by all accounts was an excellent defender before his move to CFC.
I also agree that Luis is not a horrible defender as people keep claiming - he's young and getting used to a situation that is sort-of changing and Terry is probably the main problem for him cos he's obviously an egostistical thinks-he-Mr. Chelsea cunt who just won't be told. I think his mistakes have been positional mainly which show the confucion he's probably feeling as a result of having a failing uinsuited Terry controlling the defence.
Torres is also a huge problem for AVB and despite the mounting evidence for his decline there's still the possibility that he could score a lot of goals. Noone on here has the expertise to say that he's shot because of injuries even though the case for that seems strong. I'd maintain that his performance against the Scum a few games back could be evidence that it's still in him - equally it could be the one last excellent game he had in him.
Anyway, it's unlikely that he'll get much more time so none of this really matters for him. If nothing else I hope I've helped show that Terry is a cunt.
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Anyone else wear a 20,000 Euro watch to work..?


Don't you just hate it when these people get stuff thrown at them for free..
The face of Frank Muller..
He should be SHOT in front of his family for this..
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That's true, but it also shouldn't be the measure of a manager. Sacking him without allowing him to rebuild the squad with his players would mean they'll never know whether his 'footballing vision' is effective or not.Originally posted by dww View PostThe squad is well below the level it was a few years ago but I don't think AVB is adapting his tactics to get the best out of the players he has. He's also tended to fudge the big decisions about easing Terry and to a lesser extent Lampard out of the team. His pressing game really doesn't suit either of them.
Terry and Luiz is a terrible pairing. Both go to challenge for the first ball and neither covers the other. I think Luiz will come good though, he's got a lot of skill and by all accounts was an excellent defender before his move to CFC.
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The squad is well below the level it was a few years ago but I don't think AVB is adapting his tactics to get the best out of the players he has. He's also tended to fudge the big decisions about easing Terry and to a lesser extent Lampard out of the team. His pressing game really doesn't suit either of them.Originally posted by Kenneth View PostIt's their squad that's degraded to the point of being crappy. They should just stick with a manager. They can afford not to qualify for the CL and rebuild the squad.
Terry and Luiz is a terrible pairing. Both go to challenge for the first ball and neither covers the other. I think Luiz will come good though, he's got a lot of skill and by all accounts was an excellent defender before his move to CFC.
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take city/spurs out the question theyd be 3rd just behhind newcastle who will slide, 5 off the mancs and theyd be no crisis
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Originally posted by Liverpool View Postits a 3 year rebuilding job at best, normally theyd be fine but with the rise of city/spurs its a tough ask to balance keeping in the cl and bringing in new players and ideas
Plus they've got to rebuild within the FFP rules which will hopefully mean they just don't go out and buy a team of £20m+ players.
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its a 3 year rebuilding job at best, normally theyd be fine but with the rise of city/spurs its a tough ask to balance keeping in the cl and bringing in new players and ideas
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It's their squad that's degraded to the point of being crappy. They should just stick with a manager. They can afford not to qualify for the CL and rebuild the squad.
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