Copa America 2011

[little dave hedgehog]

what channel, you fockers?

[Mostar]

this on sky or what?

See post #95 LDH

[Mostar]

look pure quality alright, no wonder so many clubs after him, and yeah jaysus we're so far away from signing anyone like that

Imo he would fit perfectly with JWH "value for money" approach. Only 19 and clearly talented enough to be a superstar in a near future.

No matter what we would pay him we can sell him for twice that amount in 4,5 years if we decide to do so.

One player Imo we should buy without thinking too much.

[wavydavy]

Or maybe he's just improved enormously?

Mate, I'm not suggesting for a second he's not starting on merit. Just pointing out the current Brazil manager is obviously someone who knows him as both a man and a player and who is aware of his value to a team. I cannot believe the improvement in LL. I believe he may only be a year or so away from being a top, top player

[Neil Young]

not rocket surgery is it. I love all this revisionism and how people have been proved alegedly right......but he had to play an awful lot of games to get where he is today and he really wasnt very good to start with.

Some people were saying he was crap and should be got rid of. Others were saying he was young and inexperienced and needed to be given time. And I expect there were still others who weren't in either camp.

But clearly his improvement has proved right those who said he'd come good and wrong those who wanted rid.

[Craig_H]

Hopefully the tournament gets a bit more exciting than the ****e served up so far!

Between Argentina's dire display against Bolivia, and Brazil being ****e tonight, the big boys are letting the side down so far.

Here's hoping Uruguay do something tomorrow

[danperkins]

Imo he would fit perfectly with JWH "value for money" approach. Only 19 and clearly talented enough to be a superstar in a near future.

No matter what we would pay him we can sell him for twice that amount in 4,5 years if we decide to do so.

One player Imo we should buy without thinking too much.

unforunately all the "superstar" "next best things"
always seem to want to go to either Madrid or Barca for some reason, bleeding irritating

[danperkins]

How the **** does Ramires get his game for Chelsea & Brazil? He's putrid, what position does he even play? Pato is over rated too IMO still young though.

[Craig_H]

Mate, I'm not suggesting for a second he's not starting on merit. Just pointing out the current Brazil manager is obviously someone who knows him as both a man and a player and who is aware of his value to a team. I cannot believe the improvement in LL. I believe he may only be a year or so away from being a top, top player

No, it was the 'humble pie' comment i had an issue with - implying that Lucas was always this good and some people just wouldnt admit it, or something.

When most of the 'humble pie eaters' were criticising his game, he WAS poor.

[Craig_H]

What's going on with Dani Alves' hair??

[danperkins]

Pato should have 4 or 5 goals already, Brazil look quite boring actually. Their missing a goal scorer like they've always had, a Romario/Ronaldo type.

[Craig_H]

Brazil are nothing like the amazing teams they once had. Difficult to see Spain being overcome anytime soon, unless Argentina get their act together and learn to utilise the incredible attacking talent they have. Brazil at home next world cup though, so that'll obviously help. But they're a shadow of the amazing Brazil sides from the past.

[danperkins]

Yeah true they are a shadow of previous teams. The Argies have amazing attacking players but are a shambles defensively. I can't see either of them toppling the Spanish. Lot of tippy tappy bull**** and zero end product, so boring but at least Lucas has been rock solid and had an impressive game which is a good thing i suppose.

[Craig_H]

I bet the bookies have made a mint out of Argentina and Brazil both failing to win

[BrooklynRed]

No he wasn't a disaster at all, he was barely given enough time tbh.
He was thrown in at the deep end and had to battle to get them to qualify, but give him his due he achieved it in the end.

He played Messi in the same way he plays for Barca - he was aloud to roam - so don't sprout **** about him playing Mesi too deep, cos Messi did everything but score in the WC. How many times did he hit the bar or see the keeper parry his shot past the bar?

No, but if you say so. Messi plays in front of Xavi & Iniesta for Barça where he is lethal getting the ball near the box and dribbling in or in the box and finishing. For Argentina he picks the ball up at the half way line and runs at defenders. Maradona even said he wanted Messi to prove himself as the playmaker, as the true #10, etc etc. He is still stick there because Argentina have no Xavi/Iniesta attacking midfielders to link play between Mascherano/Cambiasso and the 4000 forwards they have, so it falls to Messi to launch the attacks, etc etc. He does "everything but score" for Argentina, meanwhile he bangs in 50 for Barça. Not sure how it is the same, less sure how it is not a huge waste, but ok, if you say so.