La Liga 2011-12

[badpiggy]

I'm not sure why we have to make out that Mourinho isn't a great manager just cos he's a cunt. He's both one of the top 5 managers and top 5 cunts in the world.

[Craig_H]

If someone thinks it is fun when someone do something that could have make another person blind on one eye then he or she is a ****ing idiot.

What Mourinho did was a disgrace and on the street it would be classed as a criminal act. No fun at all. It was a disgrace.

He isn't guaranteed success either. He didn't even reach one CL final at Chelsea. They got him in to win the league and the CL.

He won the league but I can't say that he was a success at Chelsea. You are expected to win the league when you splash out £200m net in a few years time.

You are expected to win the league and CL at Real and do it in a way that make the supporters proud. Winning isn't enough at Real. You must win in style.

He will be a big failure if he don't win the league or CL this season.

He isn't either that great building a club from top to bottom. He is great building a league squad by spending a lot of money but **** taking care of young talents from the teams own Academy.

Rafa is for example a much more complete manager than Mourinho will ever be.

[Kenneth]

I'm not sure why we have to make out that Mourinho isn't a great manager just cos he's a cunt. He's both one of the top 5 managers and top 5 cunts in the world.

[Arn]

Can you call him a success at Chelsea considering that he didn't reach one single CL final with them?

He splashed so much cash that it would have been a fiasco if they hadn't won the league. He splashed even more money net than FSG bought Liverpool FC for.

He didn't reach one single CL final. He was a good manger in the PL but he was a big time failure in the CL.

[Craig_H]

He won them their first league title for over 50 ****ing years....oh no, not a success at all

Your problem is that you let personal feelings interfere with logic and reality - hence why Rafa is the best manager of all time, Mourinho's ****...sorry, 'not successful', Suso and Sterling are apparently worth £20m each....etc etc etc. As for Mourinho being a failure in the CL - he only won it with Porto, easy task eh?

If you could separate personal feelings from your opinions, you'd be a very astute poster. Big if though, unfortunately.

[saj]

He won them their first league title for over 50 ****ing years....oh no, not a success at all

Your problem is that you let personal feelings interfere with logic and reality - hence why Rafa is the best manager of all time, Mourinho's ****...sorry, 'not successful', Suso and Sterling are apparently worth £20m each....etc etc etc. As for Mourinho being a failure in the CL - he only won it with Porto, easy task eh?

If you could separate personal feelings from your opinions, you'd be a very astute poster. Big if though, unfortunately.

To be fair given the recent recent form of Suso, I'd say using Arn's metric system he's probably worth £14.6m now

[Arn]

He won them their first league title for over 50 ****ing years....oh no, not a success at all

Your problem is that you let personal feelings interfere with logic and reality - hence why Rafa is the best manager of all time, Mourinho's ****...sorry, 'not successful', Suso and Sterling are apparently worth £20m each....etc etc etc. As for Mourinho being a failure in the CL - he only won it with Porto, easy task eh?

If you could separate personal feelings from your opinions, you'd be a very astute poster. Big if though, unfortunately.

He wasn't a success if you look at the whole picture. You are EXPECTED to win the league when you splash out more than £200m net in a very short time.

He was definitely not a success in the CL. Not a single CL final.

He did his job in the PL but didn't do it in the CL. Can you call someone that only did half the job a success? They got him in to win the league and the CL.

He failed. Can you call someone that fails a success?

[Craig_H]

He wasn't a success if you look at the whole picture. You are EXPECTED to win the league when you splash out more than £200m net in a very short time.

He was definitely not a success in the CL. Not a single CL final.

He did his job in the PL but didn't do it in the CL. Can you call someone that only did half the job a success? They got him in to win the league and the CL.

He failed. Can you call someone that fails a success?

Arn, you might be 'expected' to win the league spending big - so what happens this season then? City have spent ****loads, Chelsea have a £400m squad, United have spent loads, we have spent £100m in the last 7 months....

So we're all 'expected' to win the league are we? Except, only one can win it.

Whatever you say about money, winning the league is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS a success. Only a doofus would look upon a league title win as 'failure'.

Once again, he won the CL with Porto and with Inter - to say he isnt a success in the CL is daft too.

But as for his time at Chelsea, back to back league wins for a club who hadnt won it for half a century is a success. Full Stop.

Try and find someone who thinks it wasnt - clue - you'll need a mirror.

[saj]

He wasn't a success if you look at the whole picture. You are EXPECTED to win the league when you splash out more than £200m net in a very short time.

He was definitely not a success in the CL. Not a single CL final.

He did his job in the PL but didn't do it in the CL. Can you call someone that only did half the job a success? They got him in to win the league and the CL.

He failed. Can you call someone that fails a success?

Come on man, please. Don't this to yourself - you don't deserve it.

[Arn]

Arn, you might be 'expected' to win the league spending big - so what happens this season then? City have spent ****loads, Chelsea have a £400m squad, United have spent loads, we have spent £100m in the last 7 months....

So we're all 'expected' to win the league are we? Except, only one can win it.

Whatever you say about money, winning the league is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS a success. Only a doofus would look upon a league title win as 'failure'.

Once again, he won the CL with Porto and with Inter - to say he isnt a success in the CL is daft too.

But as for his time at Chelsea, back to back league wins for a club who hadnt won it for half a century is a success. Full Stop.

Try and find someone who thinks it wasnt - clue - you'll need a mirror.

I meant as you very well know that he wasn't a success in the CL at Chelsea.

He had Man U and Arsenal to fight it out with in the league. Not as hard as it is now. Arsenal was on the way down so only Man U was a realistic challenger.

Come on twist more words so it will suit you

[Kenneth]

Well you've talked me round.

[RichC]

I meant as you very well know that he wasn't a success in the CL at Chelsea.

He had Man U and Arsenal to fight it out with in the league. Not as hard as it is now. Arsenal was on the way down so only Man U was a realistic challenger.

Come on twist more words so it will suit you

Arn - he won the league for the first time in 50 years for Chelsea, won the league at Porto and at Inter.

He also won the CL at Porto & Inter and got to the semi's with both Real and Chelsea.

I am sorry but he's one of if not the most successful managers in the game today if you look at what he's done since Porto won the CL and he moved to Chelsea.

You cannot say the guy isn't successful and isn't one of the best around, this seems to be a love of Rafa and a hatred of Maureen shining through, he may be a complete tosser but you cannot deny his talent as a manager

[Craig_H]

Well you've talked me round.

Arn - he won the league for the first time in 50 years for Chelsea, won the league at Porto and at Inter.

He also won the CL at Porto & Inter and got to the semi's with both Real and Chelsea.

I am sorry but he's one of if not the most successful managers in the game today if you look at what he's done since Porto won the CL and he moved to Chelsea.

You cannot say the guy isn't successful and isn't one of the best around, this seems to be a love of Rafa and a hatred of Maureen shining through, he may be a complete tosser but you cannot deny his talent as a manager

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

What's on tonight? I seen a tweet and it said Barcelona v Napoli

[Arn]

Arn - he won the league for the first time in 50 years for Chelsea, won the league at Porto and at Inter.

He also won the CL at Porto & Inter and got to the semi's with both Real and Chelsea.

I am sorry but he's one of if not the most successful managers in the game today if you look at what he's done since Porto won the CL and he moved to Chelsea.

You cannot say the guy isn't successful and isn't one of the best around, this seems to be a love of Rafa and a hatred of Maureen shining through, he may be a complete tosser but you cannot deny his talent as a manager

It doesn't matter how long time it was since they won the league. If you splash out over £200m net in a few years time and only have one real strong competitor in Man U then you are expected to either win the league or finish second every season.

He didn't even reach one single CL final at Chelsea. They got him in to win the CL and he didn't reach one single final. No success in Europe at Chelsea. He didn't do his job.

At Real you are expected to win the CL and if you don't even reach the final then you are not successful. If you don't win the league at Real then you are a failure. You are expected to win the league at Real. Coming second is far away from being successful.

At Inter he did an excellent job. He did what was expected from him in the league considering that they won the league several years in a row and the main competitors had been weakened thanks to the scandal in Italy and at the same time they splashed out big time. He did his job in the league, nothing more, nothing less.

He won the CL at Inter and that was a big success. That wasn't expected.

His biggest success is still when he won the CL at Porto and his long unbeaten home run that he had.

I never said that he isn't a very good manager but he isn't guaranteed success. He isn't even close to be the best manager in the world.

Can he build up a club from top to bottom? Who knows? He hasn't even tried that yet. He doesn't give a **** about Academies and own young talents.

Splash the cash big time EVERY season since he took over at Chelsea. That has been his trademark. We don't know how good he is building a club with say a £30m net a year transfer budget because he normally splash out much much more than that.