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  • Pablo
    Anti-Antipodeanite
    • May 2007
    • 25808

    #8086
    He is saying they want their day in court today but he is well aware their lawyers will use every dirty tactic possible to drag this out for years and years.

    Disagree he's not culpable, how naive do you think he is?

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    • Doc_Piptorious
      • Jul 2006
      • 40258

      #8087
      Originally posted by Pablo
      He is saying they want their day in court today but he is well aware their lawyers will use every dirty tactic possible to drag this out for years and years.

      Disagree he's not culpable, how naive do you think he is?

      Was it not reported that some of the 115 charges are to do with payments to Pep and the players that were never declared to the tax man and done through third parties?

      If that is true, then he sure as hell knows about that.
      I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


      Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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      • Le Chef
        Paisley
        • Jul 2006
        • 10754

        #8088
        Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
        Was it not reported that some of the 115 charges are to do with payments to Pep and the players that were never declared to the tax man and done through third parties?

        If that is true, then he sure as hell knows about that.
        Yep - Only have to look at the Mancini contract to realise it was a total con job
        I make no apologies, this is me

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        • danperkins
          Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
          • May 2010
          • 50412

          #8089
          Interesting comments but **** all will be done about it in the end imo, I'll believe it when I see it. I see Newcastle in advanced talks to sign some multi million quid shirt sponsorship deal with a "Saudi based events company". City MkII
          Last edited by danperkins; 24-05-23, 02:32 PM.

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          • Buzzo
            Donald Buzzworth
            • Jun 2010
            • 67435

            #8090


            Saw that also. They are hiding in plain site aren’t they? They not far short of admit how bent the deal is in the announcement.
            Modifying post.

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            • Irishnev
              Paisley
              • Aug 2006
              • 18294

              #8091
              Originally posted by Buzzo


              Saw that also. They are hiding in plain site aren’t they? They not far short of admit how bent the deal is in the announcement.
              Cracking website though - super professional

              [ame="https://twitter.com/nabyllionaire/status/1661340792634372097"]https://twitter.com/nabyllionaire/status/1661340792634372097[/ame]

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              • Charly
                Paisley
                • Jul 2008
                • 10372

                #8092
                I am pretty sure they give zero **** as to what Pep thinks. And he recently signed a newcontract while under investigation. Wonder if he has a few quid offshore? Their wage bill being what it is, someone somewhere is not being honest about their income.
                In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                • ChesterDave
                  Paisley
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 32224

                  #8093
                  The PL may be weak but reckon HMRC would be a little more interested.
                  Football without Origi is nothing

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                  • Charly
                    Paisley
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 10372

                    #8094
                    Originally posted by ChesterDave
                    The PL may be weak but reckon HMRC would be a little more interested.
                    Yes, exactly.

                    The main reason why they refuse to release details of remuneration of the playing staff. HMRC should do a fulll audit regardless.
                    In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                    • Fosterbloke
                      Run the Jewels
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 39095

                      #8095
                      Cheating aside - Pep is a brilliant manager and I don't think his tactics and style of play would work unless he was working with the absolute best players, it's why he's never managed a Spurs or Wolves type team.

                      My praise for him ends there though.
                      Was mu

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                      • danperkins
                        Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                        • May 2010
                        • 50412

                        #8096
                        He's a brilliant coach, there is no doubt about it but yeah makes things a whole lot easier when you pick the favorite every time.

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                        • S-RED
                          Shankly
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6929

                          #8097
                          he's a brilliant coach, if he has a 2Bill team, with a 0.5Bill bench..........

                          he needs the cream of the crop players to coach, no way he would extract the same level of performnce that JK has from some of the players we have had.

                          If he could they wouldn't have spent hundreds of millions on defenders only to continue buying more & discard those that he cannot coach

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                          • Exiled_red
                            Paisley
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 55280

                            #8098
                            To be fair I think he deserves some credit for what he did at Barca he did have some generational talents and a fat cheque book, so it is difficult to judge exactly how much of the credit he deserves for that but definately a decent amount.

                            Since that he has won what you would expect him to given the expectation of the clubs and the money spent.

                            Money doesn't necessarily buy success you have to spend it the right way and develop a good team which he obviously has done. He is clearly a very good manager that isn't in question, what is is where his achievements should rank in comparison to other great managers and for me circumstances and situations at clubs water that down somewhat eg at Bayern he simply continued their existing success
                            Last edited by Exiled_red; 25-05-23, 08:22 AM.
                            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                            • Doc_Piptorious
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 40258

                              #8099
                              Originally posted by Exiled_red
                              To be fair I think he deserves some credit for what he did at Barca he did have some generational talents and a fat cheque book, so it is difficult to judge exactly how much of the credit he deserves for that but definately a decent amount.

                              Since that he has won what you would expect him to given the expectation of the clubs and the money spent.

                              Money doesn't necessarily buy success you have to spend it the right way and develop a good team which he obviously has done. He is clearly a very good manager that isn't in question, what is is where his achievements should rank in comparison to other great managers and for me circumstances and situations at clubs water that down somewhat eg at Bayern he simply continued their existing success

                              You could also argue that he just keeps buying until he gets it right.

                              With City alone, look at his track record of buying over and over for set positions until he gets a guy that works in that position.

                              Most other managers have to get it right first or second time otherwise they have to make do with who they have.

                              He can buy centre back after centre back, full back after full back and so on until the player works within his system.


                              His mistakes in the transfer market do not matter as they have no consequences. Players can flop, they can take ages to settle. None of that matters to a Pep team as he can simply replace them quickly and do so again and again.


                              He has had that luxury to one degree or another at every club he managed, with City being the ultimate example.

                              Good manager yes, great manager maybe. He has never had to build a team on finite resources, he has never had to manage against adversity as the teams he goes to are already the wealthiest and/or the best in the division.
                              I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


                              Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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                              • Sus
                                Dalglish
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 3637

                                #8100
                                Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
                                You could also argue that he just keeps buying until he gets it right.

                                With City alone, look at his track record of buying over and over for set positions until he gets a guy that works in that position.

                                Most other managers have to get it right first or second time otherwise they have to make do with who they have.

                                He can buy centre back after centre back, full back after full back and so on until the player works within his system.


                                His mistakes in the transfer market do not matter as they have no consequences. Players can flop, they can take ages to settle. None of that matters to a Pep team as he can simply replace them quickly and do so again and again.


                                He has had that luxury to one degree or another at every club he managed, with City being the ultimate example.

                                Good manager yes, great manager maybe. He has never had to build a team on finite resources, he has never had to manage against adversity as the teams he goes to are already the wealthiest and/or the best in the division.


                                This is my issue with it as well, especially when City folk quote Van Dijk's price or selective net spend stats

                                There's no jeopardy for Pep, and that's the difference - part of the reason we didn't refresh our midfield recently was that we had already spent 50m on Keita and couldn't just do that again (right or wrong). Pep just doesn't live in that world

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