Arsenal

[Corndog]

What it boils down to though is that the comparison with the decision against us in the Spurs game doesn't fit. The cancelling of a legitimate goal isn't objective, subjective or anything else. It's just wrong

Yes it was wrong, badly wrong and hopefully the learnings from it mean it won’t be repeated but that’s life, you get wronged sometimes and you move on.

[Norbs]

What it boils down to though is that the comparison with the decision against us in the Spurs game doesn't fit. The cancelling of a legitimate goal isn't objective, subjective or anything else. It's just wrong

[Corndog]

I don’t think the ball was out of play, but it was definitely a foul. And I understand the frustration of the VAR system being unable to determine whether there was an offside, the system it supposed to determine offsides and it couldn’t.

So yes, Arteta went off on one but the goal shouldn’t have stood, but he was passing the book on the refs away from his team’s failings.

I don’t necessarily agree with all of that but even if you were objectively right, that’s football, officiating has never been perfect and over the course of a season, some decisions that shouldn’t, will go for or against you.

I understand being frustrated at the moment but after the match, get over it and move on. Life’s not fair.

[Fosterbloke]

If this costs them the league then of course Arteta will get heated. I'm just here to enjoy the **** show..

[Kenneth]

I don’t think the ball was out of play, but it was definitely a foul. And I understand the frustration of the VAR system being unable to determine whether there was an offside, the system it supposed to determine offsides and it couldn’t.

So yes, Arteta went off on one but the goal shouldn’t have stood, but he was passing the book on the refs away from his team’s failings.

[Corndog]

I only saw the highlights but for the goal, I donÂ’t understand what Arsenal are complaining about. VAR checked it and I think it got it right, the potential for a foul could have gone either way but I donÂ’t think it was one.

Artetas rant is a joke, the language he uses is way over the top, itÂ’s a game of football and he goes on using words like a disgrace.

He couldnÂ’t even specify which decision he was so mad about when asked, pure theatrics.

The one against spurs was a bad mistake but mistakes happen in every facet of life there are humans, if they are not repeated in the same way after some intervention then fine.

So many football fans are big babyÂ’s, if you let a bad result caused by a bad call make you so mad that your weekend is ruined, thereÂ’s a good chance you need to get a life.

As klopp says, football is the most important of the least important things in life.

[spud_gun]

The poor saps that get bullied at grass roots.

In fairness **** being a referee at grass roots level

[Cormack74]

A charity supporting referees?!?

The poor saps that get bullied at grass roots.

[spud_gun]

A charity supporting referees?!?

[Cormack74]

Oh, NOW it's in the interests of all teams to not accept the **** officiating.

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1721164802490298421

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/11/06/arsenal-statement-embarrassing-mikel-arteta-worst-behaviour/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

Arsenal’s club statement backing manager Mikel Arteta has been branded “embarrassing” by a charity representing referees, who warned that “the unacceptable” touchline behaviour of Premier League managers directly influences a toxic culture in grassroots football.

Martin Cassisdy chief executive of Ref Support UK said that “Mikel Arteta’s touchline behaviour is the worst in the Premier League and his behaviour is a large part of the problem in football. He has become a Mercedes version of Neil Warnock His behaviour and comments, that now appear to be supported by Arsenal as a club, is very worrying for me and the game in general. This statement [by Arsenal], in my opinion, is nothing other than an infantile moan.”

[SB]

Of course. But this was all too predictable. All these managers took an 'I'm alright, Jack' attitude after the Spurs/Liverpool game instead of seeing the inevitable bigger picture.

Would be great if the league collectively banded together when these unacceptable mistakes happened, instead of taking a 'mistakes happen, move on' attitude until it affects them.

Agree

[labourRed]

Of course. But this was all too predictable. All these managers took an 'I'm alright, Jack' attitude after the Spurs/Liverpool game instead of seeing the inevitable bigger picture.

Would be great if the league collectively banded together when these unacceptable mistakes happened, instead of taking a 'mistakes happen, move on' attitude until it affects them.

[danperkins]

Of course. But this was all too predictable. All these managers took an 'I'm alright, Jack' attitude after the Spurs/Liverpool game instead of seeing the inevitable bigger picture.

Would be great if the league collectively banded together when these unacceptable mistakes happened, instead of taking a 'mistakes happen, move on' attitude until it affects them.

[Mark79]

TBH, rather than making this tribal, it would be better if EVERY single club collectively took a coordinated stance against the standards of refereeing.

Of course. But this was all too predictable. All these managers took an 'I'm alright, Jack' attitude after the Spurs/Liverpool game instead of seeing the inevitable bigger picture.

Would be great if the league collectively banded together when these unacceptable mistakes happened, instead of taking a 'mistakes happen, move on' attitude until it affects them.

[dom9]

TBH, rather than making this tribal, it would be better if EVERY single club collectively took a coordinated stance against the standards of refereeing.