Racism in Football

[Kenneth]

Why are the BBC peddling the phrase 'section of the crowd'. That's wholly incorrect and needs to be clarified before it escalates in to an LFC hate campaign.

Hope the culprit gets a lifetime ban, I wonder what triggered his reaction? There's no place in the world for race hate

I've not seen that. The match report says "someone in the crowd".

[Norbs]

I've not seen that. The match report says "someone in the crowd".

It's the FA statement that Cerbie quoted. Semantics but it was area of the crowd as opposed to section of the crowd

[Angryred]

There is a Twitter post from someone two wheelchair places down from him, sounds like he is a Mr Angry type who has had rants and thrown things at players and officials before.

Certainly wasn't me as was not at the match!!

[Cerbie]

Certainly wasn't me as was not at the match!!

[Yozza]

Stadium ban for man bailed in Semenyo racism probe

A man who was arrested on suspicion of racially abusing Bournemouth forward Antoine Semenyo during the opening match of the Premier League season at Anfield has been banned from every football stadium in the UK.

The Cherries' Friday game against Liverpool was briefly halted in the 29th minute after Semenyo flagged it up to the referee.

A 47-year-old man from Liverpool, who was arrested on Saturday on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence, has been conditionally bailed, Merseyside Police said.

The conditions include a ban on attending any regulated football match in the UK and not going within one mile of a designated football stadium.

The force said the investigation into the incident was ongoing and it was working closely with Liverpool Football Club.

The 25-year-old Ghana international posted on social media that the night at Anfield would stay with him forever "because of how the entire football family stood together".

He thanked his teammates, Liverpool players and fans and the Premier League officials "who handled it professionally".

[Norbs]

Sign him up while he has a love in for us

[Cerbie]

Sign him up while he has a love in for us

sadly he only signed a 5 year extension in July, and will be 26 in January, so the chances of home being available and fitting our profile is unlikely.

[Scratch]

So the stadium ban is currently in place whilst the investigation takes place? Is that usual practice, or does that denote that the evidence (ie pitch side mics or witness statement) is pretty much open/shut?

[ChesterDave]

I think it will be standard. I don't know but I think so.

[Scratch]

Is Wrighty correct to bring race into the argument, or is it less cut and dried than he states and he's blowing it out of proportion?

Would Jude get the same coverage for his on-pitch attitude if he was white, or would it be downplayed?

I'd never even considered it myself, he just comes across as a bit full of himself, but so do a lot of footballers, but i am a white male so maybe I don't see the intricacies of it in the same way.

Bellingham

[Catrin]

He has a point generally. There are so few black coaches and managers compared to the number of black players. Black players tend to be praised for their power, strength and speed and Virgil is the only one who comes to mind who is lauded for his reading of the game. In this specific case though, behave like a bellend you’ll get criticised for it. Same applied to Zlatan, fake Ronaldo, that German midfielder who used to click his fingers at his teammates.

[ChesterDave]

I'd say it wouldn't be as much of an issue if he was white. Used to be workplace sort of thing that men and women would have the same behaviour described as strong willed (men) or difficult (women) so I can absolutely see similar double standards being applied on the ground of race

[Doc_Piptorious]

Is Wrighty correct to bring race into the argument, or is it less cut and dried than he states and he's blowing it out of proportion?

Would Jude get the same coverage for his on-pitch attitude if he was white, or would it be downplayed?

I'd never even considered it myself, he just comes across as a bit full of himself, but so do a lot of footballers, but i am a white male so maybe I don't see the intricacies of it in the same way.

Bellingham

Think he is spot on. Black players do get judged differently and described using different terms.

Caitrin mentions how black players tend to be praised for physical qualities. Think how often a black centre back or midfielder will be called a "Beast" or "strong" or "fast" whereas a white centre back or midfielder reads the game well, has great game awareness, "sees things quicker" and so on.

Even a big grok of a white centre back will rarely be called a "beast" of a player.


Then look at examples where a player, a young one, is doing something like buying a house for his mother. A white young player gets called kind, genorous and so on.

Then look at how someone like Raheem Sterling was treated in the media when he went and bought a house for his mother. Terms like flashing the cash, buying a fancy house, big spender and so on get used.


ChesterDave also makes a good point with regards to how a man and a women dosplaying similar traits of behaviours get descrobed.

[ChesterDave]

Even a big grok of a white centre back will rarely be called a "beast" of a player.

A collosus, a mountain, never a beast

[Kenneth]

Apart from Akinfenwa, who is referred to as a beast or a beast of a player, and by who?