Racism in Football

[ChesterDave]

Coconut has been deemed in court to be criminally racist.
Ferdinand laughs at comment of choc ice in response to comment about a criminal racism trial.
BBC mentions Luis Suarez
Standard.

[TheElephantMan]

Rio Ferdinand denies using racist term in tweet about Ashley Cole

Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand has denied that he was being racist after responding to a tweet describing Chelsea's Ashley Cole as a "choc ice".
Cole appeared in court as a defence witness for team-mate John Terry, who was cleared of racially abusing Rio Ferdinand's brother, Anton Ferdinand.
Rio Ferdinand said a tweet he was sent about Cole was "classic". Lawyers for Cole said he would not be complaining.
"What I said yesterday is not a racist term," Rio Ferdinand tweeted on Sunday.
"It's a type of slang/term used by many for someone who is being fake."
In the context in which the term was used 'choc ice' relates to the black and white nature of the confectionary, when an individual is supposedly being black on the outside and white on the inside.
Cole's statement said: "Ashley Cole has been made aware of the discussion following comments appearing on Twitter and wishes to make it clear that he and Rio Ferdinand are good friends and Ashley has no intention of making any sort of complaint.
"Ashley appreciates that tweeting is so quick it often results in off-hand and stray comments."
Initially, Rio Ferdinand - who has played many times alongside Cole and Terry for England - received a tweet which said: "Looks like Ashley Cole's going to be their choc ice. Then again he's always been a sell out. Shame on him."
The former Manchester United and England captain, 33, responded by saying: "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic! hahahahahahha!!"

After Twitter users began to discuss his comments, he again tweeted: "And if I want to laugh at something someone tweets....I will! Hahahahaha! Now stop getting ya knickers in a twist!"
He later removed the initial tweet.
Although Terry, 31, has been cleared of a racially aggravated public order offence during the match between Chelsea and QPR at Loftus Road last October, he could face a charge from the Football Association.
He admitted in court he used racially sensitive words towards Anton Ferdinand during the match, but said he was repeating what he thought was an accusation from the QPR player.

Liverpool striker Luis Suarez received an eight-game ban and a £40,000 fine from the FA for racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra last season.

I'm seriously starting to hate the BBC, what the **** does Luis Suarez have to do with Rio Ferdinand's stupid comment?

[ChesterDave]

They have to show only them pesky foreigners get found guilty of racism. The shining knights of England are always wrongly accused.

[Alex]

I'm seriously starting to hate the BBC, what the **** does Luis Suarez have to do with Rio Ferdinand's stupid comment?

I read that as the, trying to draw a comparison, and asking why Rio isn't getting the same treatment. Not trying to drag Suarez up again.

[ChesterDave]

Why don't they draw comparison with this case to see why he doesnt get the same treatment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12685953

[Alex]

http://m.skysports.com/article/football/7905729

[dom9]

That is getting tiresome.

[baitman]

The term coconut has been used to accuse someone of betraying their race by implying that they are brown on the outside but white on the inside.

similarly with choc ice.



its all going wrong... players shouting about racism, then calling rival players of their own ethnic group... surely they cant have it both ways. its like they can play the race card when it suits, but they also have a joker in the pack.

this whole business [high profile people/players making light of racial issues] only serves to create further divisions, and it is the normal man in the street who will have to live with the consequences of this

[dom9]

There is no chance this should get to court. They are apparently friends and Cole appears to have taken it in good spirits. At worst, given the context and spirit intended it is naive and distasteful. A criminal offence? No.

[baitman]

saw this elsewhere, and so...

Rio Ferdinand has stoked up the furore by endorsing a tweet calling Ashley Cole a 'Choc Ice' - brown on the outside, white on the inside - for supporting John Terry.

I think Rio is forgetting his own mum is white. Does that make her a '99'?

[Boogs]

saw this elsewhere, and so...

Rio Ferdinand has stoked up the furore by endorsing a tweet calling Ashley Cole a 'Choc Ice' - brown on the outside, white on the inside - for supporting John Terry.

I think Rio is forgetting his own mum is white. Does that make her a '99'?

What does this term mean? How do black men and woman differ on the inside or outside to a white man or woman?

[Vermilion]

What does this term mean? How do black men and woman differ on the inside or outside to a white man or woman?

By way of an insult, and i'm just guessing here, and trying to put it into words, but what i think it would mean is that.... he has more of an affinity to white people than to his own black roots ? Or something like that, as i say by way of an insult, to a black person from a black person.

[Gibbo]

When challenged about his own use of the term, Ferdinand later tweeted: "What I said... is not a racist term. It's a type of slang/term used by many for someone who is being fake. So there."

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By way of an insult, and i'm just guessing here, and trying to put it into words, but what i think it would mean is that.... he has more of an affinity to white people than to his own black roots ? Or something like that, as i say by way of an insult, to a black person from a black person.

Yep. It seems to be being used in more or less the same way as the more well-known American phrase "Uncle Tom".

[little dave hedgehog]

surely they are all red on the inside.