Manchester United

[Alex]

Suarez said it on the pitch to get a reaction from an opponent. Bit different to Cavani here, isnt it?

I think someone said about the Silva incident from a year or two ago. Seems similar to that for me. Same word, different situation.

[Zapater]

Suarez said it on the pitch to get a reaction from an opponent. Bit different to Cavani here, isnt it?

I think someone said about the Silva incident from a year or two ago. Seems similar to that for me. Same word, different situation.

Without repeating the debate we've all had a million times - if the sentiment is the word and the racial connotation attached to it then should the context matter? Racism is racism and if the word is deemed to have connotations which align with the horrors of racism it should be treated as such, regardless of the context. I don't think that there's room for grey in such a serious matter, particularly in the current climate of the world.

[Exiled_red]

Suarez said it on the pitch to get a reaction from an opponent. Bit different to Cavani here, isnt it?

I think someone said about the Silva incident from a year or two ago. Seems similar to that for me. Same word, different situation.

It is different and the closest comparison is other people using racist language on social media. As others have said, probably best for us to keep out of it. But the Suarez ruling decided that context and different cultural uses were no excuse.

It's just interesting now to see Man Utd fans defending him using similar comments that they were attacking the people who were defending Suarez for using. Just shows the tribal nature of football I guess.

[topscorer]

Cavani incident is clearly more innocent than the Suarez incident. It was a response to a friend and in Latin America it is mostly a word of endearment.

However considering he's a long time international team mate of Suarez and must know all the ins and outs of the Evra case and he's at Manchester United he can't claim ignorance about the connotations of the word in the UK.

Difficult one for the FA. I don't see how they can let it go by considering how hard they came down on Suarez.

Difficult one for the Mancs too, difficult for them to defend or be upset about the consequences considering the Suarez incident.

Definitely better for Liverpool supporters to keep out of it though I think!

[RichC]

I don't think Cavani should be punished here and nor should it really be compared to the Suarez incident however the FA made a rod for their own back in all of this, how they deal with it will be interesting.

As said above though it's probably best Liverpool supporters keep out of it!

[Norbs]

Wasn't it established long ago that the term Suarez used wasn't Negrito?

[Kenneth]

I thought so, yes.

[Shaggy]

Yeah, he used the word negro.

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[Fivex]

Del

[ChesterDave]

I genuinely can't remember the precise details from that long ago. When we say established do we mean confirmed or do we mean that is what the FA said he used?

[Harv]

People in this country think it is. So has to be handled as if it is.

I dont know enough about the word or the people it offends to be able to say it isnt.

So, why does what some white little Englander thinks about another language matter? Twitter or Instagram or whatever he's posted it on is a worldwide platform. People are free to speak in their native languages aren't they?

In a funny way the over the top PC England reaction to this is a little bit racist in itself isn't it? You're basically saying your language and interpretation of other languages is more important than any others.

The people it offends are people who don't speak Spanish, and are literally translating it, which sums it all up. People have no ****ing clue what they're getting upset about these days, they just love to whinge.

[frank the tank]

So, why does what some white little Englander thinks about another language matter? Twitter or Instagram or whatever he's posted it on is a worldwide platform. People are free to speak in their native languages aren't they?

In a funny way the over the top PC England reaction to this is a little bit racist in itself isn't it? You're basically saying your language and interpretation of other languages is more important than any others.

The people it offends are people who don't speak Spanish, and are literally translating it, which sums it all up. People have no ****ing clue what they're getting upset about these days, they just love to whinge.

[frank the tank]

remember when Father Ted did the presentation slides on how the Chinese community added to craggy island and finished it with Fr Ted / Not a Racist on repeat


That's what Man United should do........ edison Cavani.....not a racist....

[Exiled_red]

So, why does what some white little Englander thinks about another language matter? Twitter or Instagram or whatever he's posted it on is a worldwide platform. People are free to speak in their native languages aren't they?

In a funny way the over the top PC England reaction to this is a little bit racist in itself isn't it? You're basically saying your language and interpretation of other languages is more important than any others.

The people it offends are people who don't speak Spanish, and are literally translating it, which sums it all up. People have no ****ing clue what they're getting upset about these days, they just love to whinge.

This is the position the FA have got themselves into through the little Englander / ignorance of other languages and cultures. The Suarez hearing concluded that there is no place for certain words on a football pitch regardless of context, and not wanting to go into the Suarez thing again but that is IMO a bad position to get yourself into, as context is everything, but that ruling has set a difficult precedent.

[Harv]

The Suarez thing was a witch hunt plain and simple. He was never getting away with that and they made an example out of him. All context was ignored, Evra's role and insult used towards Suarez ignored.

The Cavani thing is even more absurd when you factor in the context. He's saying this to a friend and teammate FFS. Do they honestly think he's going to be using a derogatory term towards him? He's also not even black either

There's a candy here called 'Chico's' that they have now decided to rename because they're brown (chocolate flavour jelly babies basically) and apparently "Chico" can be construed to be a derogatory term. Whoever has decided this clearly has no clue on Spanish language as "Chico" is a term of endearment like buddy. ****, I used to call me ex "chica" FFS.


The world is truly starting to do my head in.